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November 2020 14:00<br><b>An:</b> Judith Hellerstein <ju</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:dith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank">dith@jhellerstein.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Lutz Donnerhacke <<a href="mailto:lutz@donnerhacke.de" target="_blank">lutz@donnerhacke.de</a>>; Technology Taskforce WG <<a href="mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [technology taskforce] Venueless platform<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Dear Lutz:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Looking at the website and it's pricing categories, this service is focused on events. 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We will add this to our list<br><br>Best <br>Judith <br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><a href="mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank">Judith@jhellerstein.com</a><br>Skype ID:Judithhellerstein <br><br>> On Nov 10, 2020, at 6:57 AM, Lutz Donnerhacke <<a href="mailto:lutz@donnerhacke.de" target="_blank">lutz@donnerhacke.de</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> Currently the DENOG12 meeting is held virtual only.<br>> They are using <a href="https://venueless.org/" target="_blank">https://venueless.org/</a> which provides the best environment<br>> for meetings I'v ever seen.<br>> Most important features for me:<br>> * It works from the browser. 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