Timezone translations

[Mark Davis]

> Unless you want to be targeted by many Northern Irish, I wouldn't do that.
> There is no generic name for the time used in the UK.

If we supply nothing, then it will fall back to the last field of the TZID
("London"). Showing a blank menu item is not really an option ;-)

> Are you also going to declare that New York can't use EST?

No. I don't see how what I said would give you that impression.

> > I don't see any reason for not doing it for all of English ("Summer
...
> How about the fact that many English-speaking people [*] use the term
> "Daylight Savings Time"?
>
> [*] Accepting American as a dialect of English for this purpose.

What I was referring to was specifically the name for Europe/London. Nothing
that I wrote was about the English names for the US timezones.

‎Mark

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clive D.W. Feather" <clive at demon.net>
To: "Mark Davis" <mark.davis at jtcsv.com>
Cc: "Peter Ilieve" <peter at aldie.co.uk>; <tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov>
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 14:38
Subject: Re: Timezone translations


> Mark Davis said:
> > Ideally we need 6 names, starting with 3 full ones:
> >
> > generic: British Time
>
> Unless you want to be targeted by many Northern Irish, I wouldn't do that.
> There is no generic name for the time used in the UK.
>
> > winter: ?
>
> Greenwich Mean Time
>
> > summer: British Summer Time
>
> > Thus we can't use the long name Greenwich Mean Time or the abbreviation
GMT
> > to refer to the "British Winter Time",
>
> You can't *NOT* use the long name Greenwich Mean Time or the abbreviation
GMT
> to refer to it. Because that is what it is called.
>
> Full stop.
> Selah.
> End of story.
>
> Are you also going to declare that New York can't use EST? If so, then you
> are away with the fairies.
>
> > We also need three distinct abbreviations (if available).
> >
> > generic: BT
>
> GMT/BST
>
> > winter: ?
>
> GMT
>
> > summer: BST?
>
> BST
>
> > If an abbreviation is not specified, the fallback will be the
corresponding
> > long name. If a long name is not specified, the fallback is to a country
> > name (if a single zone)
>
> Will you get this right?
>
> > Another twist. The timezone files that are generated are for the default
> > language values, in this case, English. The values can actually vary by
> > individual country. So we have to decide whether these changes should be
> > made for all of English, or for just, say, the UK and Ireland (en_GB,
> > en_IE).
>
> I don't know if Ireland uses the term GMT and BST, or something else.
> Probably the latter.
>
> > I don't see any reason for not doing it for all of English ("Summer
> > Time" is a more meaningful term than "Daylight Savings Time" anyway),
but if
> > there are any reasons not to do that you might mention them.
>
> How about the fact that many English-speaking people [*] use the term
> "Daylight Savings Time"?
>
> [*] Accepting American as a dialect of English for this purpose.
>
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