China time zone

[An Yang]

Dear Arthur Olson and Paul Eggert,

Could you give me some feedback please?

在 2011-06-29三的 23:59 +0800，An Yang写道：

> Dear Arthur,
> 
> Thanks a lot.
> 
> At first, let me show you some data:
> 
> Population of Beijing in 2011 is 22,634,722, data from
> http://www.trueknowledge.com/q/population_of_beijing_in_2011
> And population of Shanghai in 2011 is 22,447,529, data from
> http://www.trueknowledge.com/q/population_of_shanghai_in_2011
> 
> And of cause, you can check the population of Beijing and Shanghai in
> 1996, Beijing is 2,069,722, and Shanghai is 1,188,721.
> 
> If your data source is
> http://www.world-gazetteer.com/wg.php?x=1263073253&men=gcis&lng=en&des=gamelan&geo=-54&srt=npan&col=abcdefghinoq&msz=1500&pt=c&va=&srt=2npan
> and http://www.citypopulation.de/world/Agglomerations.html
> What I can say, the data is wrong absolutely.
> 
> The following is the data from the China Gov (Chinese only):
> http://www.shanghai.gov.cn/shanghai/node2314/node2319/node12344/u26ai25463.html
> http://www.bjstats.gov.cn/rkpc_6/pcsj/201105/t20110506_201580.htm
> 
> All of these data is different, what should we trust?
> Let me try to explain it, frankly say, it's difficult to count the
> exact population of a city which have more than 20,000,000, especially
> in China.
> The population data from government, it just include the people who
> have the locale ID ( hukou ), do not include people without locale ID
> (hukou).
> 
> So maybe 20-30% people lost, I think the data from
> http://www.trueknowledge.com  is more accurate, which reflect the real
> number of people who live in the city.
> 
> My conclusion is both Beijing and Shanghai are big city in China, and
> have almost the similar populations.
> 
> According to the rule:
> Among locations with similar populations, pick the best-known
> location, e.g. prefer `Rome' to `Milan'.
> 
> I think the best-known location is Beijing, no matter from Chinese
> view or from the foreigner's view.
> 
> I have read all the messages about Beijing Time in
> ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz, and notice that all the
> voice from China is the same, Beijing should represent China.
> 
> So trust the people who live there and use Beijing time everyday maybe
> the best choice. 
> 
> 
> Bests, 
> 
> An Yang
> 
> 在 2011-06-29三的 06:30 -0400，Arthur Olson写道：
> 
> > I've added you to the time zone mailing list.
> > 
> > You may want to check out the old mailing list archives in...
> >         ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
> > ...for past discussions of the Shanghai/Beijing matter (it does come
> > up every few years).
> > 
> >         --ado
> 
> 


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