[tz] Idea for internationalized time point unique time zone abbreviations

Mark Davis ☕ mark at macchiato.com
Fri Jun 8 22:44:54 UTC 2012


"They have a different purpose than what's been discussed here."

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On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Ian Abbott <abbotti at mev.co.uk> wrote:

> On 2012-06-08 18:10, Mark Davis ☕ wrote:
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>> Just FYI.
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>> In Unicode CLDR we needed to define a set of abbreviations for timezone
>> IDs. They have a different purpose than what's been discussed here; they
>> are purely internal ids, and only required because of restrictions in
>> BCP47 (so they all needed to be sequences of 3 to 8 ASCII alphanumerics
>> - case not significant).
>>
>> What we did was use the United Nations LOCODE values whenever available,
>> which are all 5 characters long and start with the country code. When
>> there wasn't one available, we used values that were not of length 5 so
>> that they wouldn't collide with future values. So America/Los_Angeles
>> gets "uslax", while Etc/GMT-1 gets "utce01".
>>
>> http://unicode.org/repos/cldr/**tags/release-21-0-2/common/**
>> bcp47/timezone.xml<http://unicode.org/repos/cldr/tags/release-21-0-2/common/bcp47/timezone.xml>
>>
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> Those are abbreviations for the zone names, but a particular zone may need
> different abbreviations at different times, depending on daylight savings.
>  We probably don't want more than 6 characters for the abbreviations, which
> is the SUSv3 value of {_POSIX_TZNAME_MAX}.
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> Incidentally, Microsoft use the older value 3 for _POSIX_TZNAME_MAX and
> the value 10 for TZNAME_MAX, but their tzname[] values are typically longer
> than that, e.g. "GMT Standard Time" and "GMT Daylight Time". They don't
> make for easy parsing either!
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