[tz] [PATCH 0/2] Follow Australian common usage and update CST/CST to CST/CDT and EST/EST to EST/EDT etc [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Kevin Lyda kevin at ie.suberic.net
Fri Apr 12 10:30:42 UTC 2013

Just a thought, Australian TV can be readily watched via youtube and
other sites. A quick look found Australian Sky News clips referring to
AEST for instance.

And I think this might have been discussed, but I assume news and
media orgs have guides on how to write time. Surely they'd be willing
to provide the relevant portions of those guides?

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:43 AM, John Hawkinson <jhawk at mit.edu> wrote:
> Paul Eggert <eggert at cs.ucla.edu> wrote on Wed, 10 Apr 2013
> at 22:53:38 -0700 in <51664FE2.8030309 at cs.ucla.edu>:
>> Thanks for doing all that legwork, including the search
>> surveys.  I will look at it in the next few days; something
>> like this needs a bit of time to review properly.  I also
>> hope that others can find the time to look over the survey
>> results.
> I just want to remind the list, I think we may have overemphasized the
> surveys. Sampling the Internet is not good data, and there is a
> massive effect from the deployment of the tz database that is nearly
> impossible to control for.
> (That is, because today's tz database uses 'EST' and friends, many many
> web resources will choose to do so as well.)
> And, also, Steve Jobs was not wrong when he observed (in less polite
> terms?) that users may not always have an accurate idea of what they
> actually want. A person's expectation of what is most
> convenient/best/fun/usable/desirable may not match up with reality,
> and it is very hard to engineer good studies to measure these things,
> even with a lot of time, money, and human subject research -- none of
> which we really have.
> Sorry if this email is redundant.
> --jhawk at mit.edu
>   John Hawkinson

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