[tz] Large scale changes proposed in 2014f

Tim Parenti tim at timtimeonline.com
Tue Jul 29 04:17:42 UTC 2014


On 27 July 2014 03:25, Clive D.W. Feather <clive at davros.org> wrote:

> If we know or have good reason to believe that the data is
> completely bogus, then there's no point in retaining it.
>

Even accepting your premise, which I don't, for all the other reasons
discussed... we simply don't know:

On 11 July 2014 00:58, Paul Eggert <eggert at cs.ucla.edu> wrote:

> I can't prove it, but I have the strong impression that most of the
> entries that we haven't already checked were simply invented.
>
(from http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2014-July/021194.html)

And so the only comment I've seen remotely resembling support for
discarding data doesn't even seem to apply in this instance.

--
Tim Parenti


On 27 July 2014 03:25, Clive D.W. Feather <clive at davros.org> wrote:

> Alan Barrett said:
> > As a general rule, I think that existing information should never
> > be replaced by other information with the same or worse quality,
> > but should only be replaced by information of greater quality.
> > In other words, rules should be changed only when the new rules
> > are clearly superior to the old rules.  Even if the old rules are
> > known to be inaccurate, they should be retained for the sake of
> > stability until such time as more accurate information is known.
>
> I don't agree. If we know or have good reason to believe that the data is
> completely bogus, then there's no point in retaining it. And having
> different data for two zones produces a subconcious belief that both are
> higher quality than if we just have the same. So where the data is
> completely wrong, I vote for these merges.
>
> > I also prefer retaining at least one first class zone for each
> > ISO3166 country, for ease of menu or map based selection, and to
> > allow users to see that the selected zone name contains the name
> > of a familiar city in their country.  I think that some users will
> > be upset to see a time zone name that contains the name of a city
> > in another country, especially if the two countries have a history
> > of conflict.
>
> I completely agree with this part.
>
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