[tz] [PROPOSED] Remove many invented abbreviations in 'asia'
michael.h.deckers at googlemail.com
Wed Jan 18 09:04:40 UTC 2017
On 2017-01-17 00:06, Paul Eggert wrote:
> JST wasn't removed everywhere, only in areas that typically use numeric
> abbreviations. The idea was to use JST in occupied regions like Asia/Hong_Kong
> that have alphabetic traditions like HKT, and to use +09 in occupied regions
> like Asia/Yangon which lack such traditions. That way, historical tables in
> these areas will tend to use a consistent style, which is a plus.
One could also argue that the choice of the same abbreviation for all
occupied regions provides additional information. But I agree that the
ice is thin here and that it is also a matter of style.
> Some of the previous tables' JST transitions were dubious anyway. Was it really
> called "Japan Standard Time" in Jakarta on September 22, 1945? And why wasn't
> "JST" used for Asia/Jayapura during 1942-1944 when Jayapura was at +09 and was
> under Japanese Imperial control? It was too much trouble to decide when to use
> JST vs +09, and it was a relief to remove this questionable political trivia
> when possible.
Well, it certainly was called the same as in Japan by the
Japanese, and they determined the time scale. And the proleptic
use of acronyms for time scales also is a deviation from the
guideline of recording only the most popular English use at
For a while I thought that the abbreviations of tzdb could
converge to some CLDR format in the English locale but this
may not even be a useful long term goal.
Anyway, I fully agree with your quest to take systematic decisions
in such cases. And many thanks for the enormous work and the TLC
you are expending on tzdb!
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