[tz] Ethiopia local time
c933103 at gmail.com
Sat Oct 6 08:09:05 UTC 2018
Wait a moment, I thought the term "midnight" usually refer to middle of the
night instead of the 00 hours?
2018-10-6 06:52,Tim Parenti <tim at timtimeonline.com> wrote:
> Sure, but the notion of "wall-clock midnight" under year-round +6 DST is
> no more or less tied to actual solar midnight than for any other zone as
> they exist today. As Steve puts it, hour 00 just represents the hour at
> which the calendar date changes.
> In your extreme example, it may seem odd to say it's midnight when the sun
> is still setting — and I'm certainly not suggesting Ethiopians would
> actually do anything remotely similar But these discrepancies don't stop
> folks from referring to 00:00 local time as "midnight" in most of the cases
> we cover, even if it… well… isn't.
> Moreover, we already make explicit this convention (tying hour 00 to the
> Western cultural notion of "midnight") elsewhere:
> Again, I won't be bothered if it's left out, but I also haven't really
> seen any reason against such a clarification. Perhaps my proposed wording
> is not the best.
> Tim Parenti
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 23:49, Phake Nick <c933103 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> That's not really the case. If some country decided to actually implement
>> a year-round +6 DST, then that would also be included in tz database
>> 2018-10-5 07:48, Tim Parenti <tim at timtimeonline.com> wrote:
>>> For tz's purposes, though (the sentence begins "The tz database models
>>> time using…"), those are synonymous. Of course, this may not be the case
>>> if you're using a workaround like the one suggested for Ethiopia, but the
>>> goal is to further clarify that that's out of our scope.
>>> Tim Parenti
>>> On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 19:14, Steve Allen <sla at ucolick.org> wrote:
>>>> On Thu 2018-10-04T18:13:56-0400 Tim Parenti hath writ:
>>>> > To bring this back, then, to a recognition of the potential
>>>> differences in
>>>> > how the hours are counted, we should probably expand the text in
>>>> > slightly to specify that tz counts hours under the assumption that 00
>>>> > represents midnight.
>>>> I think that 00 represents the hour at which the calendar day and date
>>>> change. That may not happen in the middle of the night.
>>>> Steve Allen <sla at ucolick.org> WGS-84
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