[tz] WSJ follows AP to Kyiv

Brian Inglis Brian.Inglis at SystematicSw.ab.ca
Tue Nov 19 16:35:10 UTC 2019

On 2019-11-19 04:29, Peter Ilieve via tz wrote:
> The Telegraph style guide (<https://www.telegraph.co.uk/style-book/>)
> has nothing about Kiev/Kyiv. A search shows the website uses Kiev,
> except for names, like the football club Dynamo Kyiv. Another example
> is a hotel review at
> <https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/ukraine/kiev/hotels/>.
> They name the hotel as InterContinental Kyiv but use Kiev everywhere
> else in the text. Unfortunately it is undated, so isn't good
> evidence of current usage.

The article appears to be a year old:

	<meta name="DCSext.articleFirstPublished" content="2018-10-02 17:26"/>

[I still maintain that spelling is too new to change in general content, and
most English readers will not recognize, but will ignore anything using it.
So the Ukraine may win in using Ukrainian transliteration, but will lose in
interest in anything using that in a subject or headline.
Use of Kyiv in a subject or headline would be better replaced by Ukraine for the
foreseeable future to attract eyeballs; use Kyiv if you want the content ignored
by English readers.
Seems like the kind of campaign that could have been initiated by Fancy Bear, to
increase the possibility that future moves will be ignored by English readers:
Ukraine wins a point but loses a campaign!]

Kind of irrelevant to tz identifiers, which should remain immutable.

I would go so far as to suggest reversion of all time zone id name changes that
correspond to the historical mistake of changing time zone id spelling only, not
because of differences found in time zone content.

Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

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