[tz] Time zones in conflict areas

Andriy Ivanchenko ivanchenko.andriy at gmail.com
Sat Nov 28 19:55:26 UTC 2020

The capture of Crimea was not peaceful. I understand that you may not have
investigated this issue. But where do you have evidence that Crimea was
occupied peacefully?
What sources do you use to determine whether or not the occupation is
peaceful? What is a peaceful occupation?
And what is war in this case?
I think it's all political concepts. Was there a war during the capture of
Crimea or not. Wouldn't it be more logical to use an adapted organization
for such definitions: the UN?

# From Alexander Krivenyshev (2014-03-17):
# time change at 2:00 (2am) on March 30, 2014
# https://vz.ru/news/2014/3/17/677464.html
# From Paul Eggert (2014-03-30):
# Simferopol and Sevastopol reportedly changed their central town clocks
# late the previous day, but this appears to have been ceremonial
# and the discrepancies are small enough to not worry about.
2:00 EU EE%sT 2014 Mar 30  2:00
4:00 - MSK 2014 Oct 26  2:00s
3:00 - MSK

сб, 28 лист. 2020 о 21:38 Paul Eggert <eggert at cs.ucla.edu> пише:

> On 11/28/20 9:34 AM, Andriy Ivanchenko wrote:
> > It looks like your base has inadvertently become a hostage to politics.
> Politics inevitably intrude upon timekeeping, and this has been true for
> millennia. The best we can do is minimize the effect; we cannot eliminate
> it.
> As for timekeeping in conflict areas, we typically don't track it
> carefully. We
> don't have entries for every town that changed hands during World War II,
> during
> the wars in Congo since 1996, etc., etc. We and our users simply don't
> have the
> resources for that. If a city already has an entry for other reasons we
> may try
> to track its civil timekeeping through a conflict, but we won't create an
> entry
> simply because there was a war and a city changed hands temporarily.
> In short, tzdb is a peacetime database. It is not designed for conflict
> and
> people engaged in a war will likely need to set their clocks by other
> means.
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