[tz] Time zones in conflict areas

Jacob Pratt jacob at jhpratt.dev
Sun Nov 29 22:08:01 UTC 2020

How many times must people respond that the tz database does not rely
solely on countries?

Western China is listed as +6. According to Beijing, they should follow +8.
There's not even a territorial dispute there! Crimea is de facto controlled
by Russia — you can't possibly dispute this. The people that live in Crimea
observe Moscow time, which is why they are listed as such in the tz

Frankly, I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish here. A number of
people have explained the list's policy, and all you've done is continue to
restate the same facts that have no relevance whatsoever to the listing.
That's not even to mention you're accusations, without evidence, that the
media was flat out lying about the shift in 2014.

Unless you can provide definitive evidence that the people in the ground in
Crimea observe Ukraine time, I suggest you stop wasting everyone's time. I
hate to be rude, but I'm not sure what else will come across as intended
given your persistence.

Jacob Pratt

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 17:01 Andriy Ivanchenko <ivanchenko.andriy at gmail.com>

> Time zones in a country are determined by the country itself.
> This is an international relationship because the time zone is not in your
> country.
> Your country recognizes Crimea as part of Ukraine.
> https://ua.usembassy.gov/crimea-is-ukraine/
> If you are a citizen of another country, it is most likely that your
> country also recognizes Crimea as part of Ukraine, or does not interfere.
> According to the law of Ukraine, the time zone on the territory of Ukraine
> is +2.
> In case you want to use a translator, you can find information about it
> here https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/509-96-p#Text.
> In 2014, there was no change in the time zone on the territory of Ukraine.
> Please review these records and remove them from the database.
> Please indicate the time zone +2 for the territory of Ukraine.
> Часові зони на території країни визначає сама країна.
> Це міжнародні стосунки, бо часова зона вказується на території не вашої
> держави.
> Ваша країна визнає Крим частиною України.
> https://ua.usembassy.gov/crimea-is-ukraine/
> Якщо ви є громадянином іншої країни, то з великою ймовірністю ваша країна
> теж визнає Крим частиною України, або не втручається.
> Згідно закону України часова зона на території України є +2.
> На випадок, якщо ви захочете скористатися перекладачем, то ви зможете
> знайти інформацію про це тут
> https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/509-96-п#Text.
> В 2014 році не здійснювалося зміни часової зони на території України.
> Прошу переглянути ці записи і прибрати їх з бази.
> Прошу вказати для території України часову зону +2.
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