[tz] [PROPOSED] Merge timezones that are alike since 1970

David Patte dpatte at relativedata.com
Sat May 29 18:49:20 UTC 2021


I disagree.

If tz followed international standards for countries (ISO I assume), 
then you would totally decouple tz from these issues, since they could 
be issues in those standards instead.

That is, in fact, the whole purpose of international standards. To 
reduce disagreements.


On 2021-05-29 14:43, Paul Eggert via tz wrote:
> On 5/29/21 2:00 AM, Stephen Colebourne via tz wrote:
>
>>> > Why should we maintain Norway and Sweden's
>>> > time zone histories, when we don't maintain the histories for
>>> > Guangdong, KwaZulu-Natal, Thanh Hóa, or Uttar Pradesh?
>>
>> Because they are regions of the same country!
>
> Thanh Hóa is not in the same country as Bangkok (Asia/Bangkok's 
> most-populous location).
>
>> merging zones across modern countries isn't acceptable.
>
> The practice is clearly acceptable, as tzdb's zones have crossed 
> national boundaries for decades in some cases (as I mentioned in an 
> earlier email). Unfortunately we haven't been consistent about this, 
> and our lack of consistency has led to understandable charges of 
> political favoritism.
>
> If we insisted on creating a new zone every time there was a different 
> country, we'd have a more-complicated database and get into even 
> bigger political messes than we already have. There was an example of 
> this recently in the complaint about why there is no separate tzdb 
> entry for Kosovo. I endured quite a bit of vitriol in private email 
> about this.
>
> In the long run we are better off decoupling tzdb entries from 
> political issues as much as we can. This will lessen the probability 
> of similar vitriol (or worse) in the future.


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