[tz] Pre-1970 data

Ken Murchison murch at fastmail.com
Fri Nov 5 18:22:19 UTC 2021

On 11/5/21 2:18 PM, Eliot Lear via tz wrote:
> Just on this point:
> On 05.11.21 17:42, Brian Park wrote:
>>     Better to stick with what we have: observe what people on the
>>     ground think the time is.
>> I've seen this a few times, but I don't understand it. No normal 
>> person on the ground thinks their time is "America/Los_Angeles". It's 
>> "US/Pacific". No normal person in Toronto thinks their time is 
>> "America/Toronto". Their country is not even America. They think 
>> their timezone is "Canada/Eastern". People are forced to use 
>> "America/Los_Angeles" or "America/Toronto" because the TZDB forced 
>> that nomenclature upon our users. It seems a mapping layer, like the 
>> 'countryzone' file containing ISO-countries, would be the one that 
>> provides the timezones that people use on the ground.
> Second verse, same as the first: these are database keys, not user 
> interface presentation.  Nobody is forced to present any database key 
> to a user.  If you have locale awareness, as most modern user-facing 
> systems have, you're going to be far more granular anyway.

Couldn't agree more with Eliot.

Kenneth Murchison
Senior Software Developer
Fastmail US LLC
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