[tz] proposal for new tzdb versions

Mark Davis ☕️ mark at macchiato.com
Wed Sep 22 18:52:20 UTC 2021

I agree with Tom's comments. We *really* don't want the disruption that
would happen when some people pick up the 2021b and others pick up 2021a1;
especially when it is likely that many of the people picking up 2021b won't
know that they could be breaking downstream clients.

There is *no* harm at all to just issuing a 2021b that has 2021a + Somoan
fix right now (no other changes). That is the simple option for now. Then
people have the opportunity to hash out the situation without disruption.


On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 11:44 AM Tom Lane via tz <tz at iana.org> wrote:

> Paul Eggert via tz <tz at iana.org> writes:
> > In light of the previous discussions and the fact that we need a new
> > release very soon, I propose the following:
> > * We release 2021b pretty much as-is (with the usual release
> > administrivia such as updating NEWS).
> > * We also generate a separate 2021a1 version, which is like 2021a except
> > with the Samoa change that is prompting 2021b. This version recognizes
> > the concerns about the number of changes to pre-1970 timestamps in
> > 2021b. I'll do this by publishing a patch to 2021a, along with a patched
> > tarball, on my website at UCLA.
> "2021a1" is what a number of people would likely have done unofficially,
> so making it at least partially official would be better than no action
> at all.  However, it still seems to me that this course of action is
> prejudging the eventual outcome.  tzdb distributors who have not been
> paying close attention will almost certainly ship 2021b, and then we
> will have exactly the data instability that some of us hoped to avoid,
> and basically no way to correct that without creating even more
> instability.
> In short: this is better than shipping 2021b only, but not by much,
> because it utterly fails to account for the concerns I have.
>                         regards, tom lane
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