[tz] Change Request: Europe/Kiev to Europe/Kyiv
paul.tz at ml.ganssle.io
Fri Apr 15 15:31:09 UTC 2022
Throwing out another option: it seems that at least Europe/Zaporozhye
came directly from Shanks with no corroboration, and at least one of my
Ukrainian colleagues expressed some skepticism that these regions even
have a distinct time zone history, see this previous thread:
I don't think we ever got any corroboration on the validity of these
data. I certainly could never find anything about it. I seem to recall
Andrew Paprocki filed some sort of freedom of information act request
with the CIA for clarification, but I don't recall anything ever coming
from that. If these are "phantom zones" we can quite possibly moot the
question by merging them into Europe/Kyiv.
On 4/13/22 07:24, Oleksandr Leskiv via tz wrote:
> Hello everybody.
> As a native Ukrainian speaker, I do agree that "Europe/Uzhhorod" and
> "Europe/Zaporizhzhia" do have a more correct version of
> transliteration compared to "Europe/Uzhgorod" and "Europe/Zaporozhye".
> On the other hand, to my knowledge, Ukraine does not actively use
> these timezones, as every town in Ukraine has the same UTC offset,
> which is determined by the "Europe/Kyiv" timezone (formerly,
> So in my opinion, these changes, while important, are not so urgent to
> be made.
> Regarding Philip Paeps's comment about "the current conflict" - I
> believe that this is not a correct term that should be for the
> situation that has been happening between Ukraine and Russian
> Federation lately.
> I do think that besides Ukraine, almost every country has qualified
> this as Russo-Ukrainian War.
> Sincerely, Oleksandr.
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:59 AM Philip Paeps <philip at trouble.is> wrote:
> On 2022-04-13 08:42:32 (+0800), Paul Eggert via tz wrote:
> > On 4/11/22 11:49, Jonathan Leffler via tz wrote:
> >> I agree that the time has probably come to make the switch,
> >> the old
> >> spelling as a backwards compatibility link.
> > Yes, things have changed significantly since the last time I did a
> > survey. Proposed patch attached, and installed into the development
> > repository.
> Thanks for (finally) making this change!
> I would suggest some minor changes to the commentary though.
> to "the current conflict" will not age well. Words like
> and "popular" have unhelpful connotations which the word "common"
> I also wonder if it wouldn't be less disruptive to our users to take
> this opportunity to also rename Europe/Uzhgorod and
> Europe/Zaporozhye to
> Europe/Uzhhorod and Europe/Zaporizhzhia at the same time...
> Philip Paeps
> Senior Reality Engineer
> Alternative Enterprises
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