[tz] Fixing GeoNames timezone error

Evan Siroky evan.siroky at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 8 09:33:38 UTC 2022

 I agree with Chris.
I'm adding a reference to the GitHub issue that Kerry created. https://github.com/evansiroky/timezone-boundary-builder/issues/131
    On Friday, 8 July 2022 at 04:22:26 am GMT+2, Chris Walton via tz <tz at iana.org> wrote:  
 The Nipigon/Toronto is a pet peeve of mine.It is the result of some questionable data inside Openstreetmap (OSM).
Nipigon is a small township in Northern Ontario with a population of 1473 and an area of 108 square km.To put this into perspective:
-Nipigon contains 0.01% of Ontario's total population.-Nipigon makes up 0.01% of Ontario's total land area.
Inside OSM,  somebody moved 73% of the land in Ontario into the America/Nipigon timezone.  It was done with about 120 separate changesets between February and June of 2020.  Some of the changesets have no source; others list "Shanks" as a reference.After following this mailing list for 15 years, I am very skeptical of the work published by Shanks, but I am in no position to prove it is wrong.I am also skeptical that anybody travelling directly by car from Windsor to Montreal (post 1970) would have had to pass through multiple time zone regions.
The OSM relations are listed below.Note that if you click on the OSM links, the colour orange is used for both inner and outer boundaries thus the inner polygons are "holes" or "excluded areas". Without shading, it is not always simple to recognize this.The relations are large and may take some time to load in your browser.
OSM America/Toronto relation: Includes most of Quebec and most urban centres in Ontario. Area: 1,546,844.1 square km. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6483867#map=5/53.592/-73.135
OSM America/Nipigon relation: Includes most rural areas of Ontario east of 90°W Also includes a few populated centers such as Sarnia (pop: 72,047) and Barrie (pop: 147,829). Area: 787,493.2 square km. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6498592#map=6/45.982/-81.573
>From a daylight saving standpoint, both zones have been the same since 1974.

It would be very helpful if somebody could accurately determine when Barrie and Sarnia started using daylight saving (without using Shanks or OSM as a reference).
On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 at 15:11, Kerry Shetline via tz <tz at iana.org> wrote:

I’ll post a more detailed comment on GitHub later, and link to my own code where I’m trying to use your boundaries to solve some of these issues.

For the example of Walpole Island, Ontario, when I try to find a zone that contains the lat/long of this location, I oddly get the match for America/Nigipon rather than America/Toronto (at least it’s not America/Detroit, as GeoNames has it). I get several matches, in fact, for America/Nigipon that don’t make sense, given that this zone should have a very small area.

I’m using the @turf/turf npm library to parse the shape files, and booleanPointInPolygon() to check if a particular zone contains a specific lat/long point.

> Evan Siroky <evan.siroky at yahoo.com> writes:
> Hello,
> I'm the maintainer of?https://github.com/evansiroky/timezone-boundary-builder?which is a project that?extracts data from Open Street Map (OSM) to build shape files of the boundaries of the world's timezones. If you find inaccuracies with the data generated from this project, I'd love to know about these problems. Feel free to submit an issue in the GitHub project noting any problem that you see.
> Evan

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