<div dir="ltr">I can't speak for everyone, but I can at least speak for my production systems --<br><br>We have a production process based around IANA releases. This process can not depend on github snapshots. We need lead time to deploy a real IANA release to thousands of boxes in a safe manner. We can do testing using github, but that doesn't remove the need to get a regularly scheduled (as in "everyone knew about the Chile changes weeks ago") update at least a week in advance.<div>
<br></div><div style>If there is anything that the community can do help the release process, please let us know.</div><div style><br></div><div style>-Andrew</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Wallace, Malcolm <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Malcolm.Wallace@sc.com" target="_blank">Malcolm.Wallace@sc.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I believe the implication of Paul’s message is that, to help, you could test the version of tzdata currently available to you in the github repository. He
says this is likely the “final version”, so of course, if your testing shows any problems, it is better to do it now rather than after it is released. If it does not show any problems, then perhaps you can use it in production even before the official release
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> Malcolm<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tz] [PATCH] Updates for Chile 2013<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Agreed.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Please let us know if we can help.
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I have a standard outage window this weekend to apply the update.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">If we don't make that I have to arrange for an emergency change and a plant wide shutdown to update the dozen or so plant floor systems.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Yes the OS update does not usually require a reboot, but the application that run on those OS's do. So we have to shutdown the whole plant. Major headache for me.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Thanks,</span> <u></u>
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<tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Hi,</span></tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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<tt>Is there anything any of us can do to assist in this?</tt><br>
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<tt>Thanks,</tt><br>
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<tt>On Feb 26, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Paul Eggert <<a href="mailto:eggert@CS.UCLA.EDU" target="_blank">eggert@CS.UCLA.EDU</a>> wrote:</tt><br>
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<tt>> The new version should be available soon. In the meantime your</tt><br>
<tt>> folks can test with what's on github, as that's likely going</tt><br>
<tt>> to be the final version, except that the version number will be</tt><br>
<tt>> updated to 2013a.</tt><br>
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<tt>> To be honest one holdup at this point is the hassle of</tt><br>
<tt>> jumping through all the internal security hoops to</tt><br>
<tt>> create an official release. It's an unpleasant process and</tt><br>
<tt>> I dread having to do it. There is some benefit to not</tt><br>
<tt>> being hasty, I suppose.</tt><br>
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