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class=463483823-07042013>Hi all, </SPAN></SPAN></P>
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class=463483823-07042013>I know this might sound like a broken record to some,
but could we please remove ambiguous time zone abreviations for
Australia? I</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
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can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want to keep the Australian
zones as EST/EST and CST/CST rather than EST/EDT and CST/CDT or AEST/AEDT and
ACST/ACDT.<SPAN class=463483823-07042013> </SPAN></SPAN>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">Stating
that there in no need to change it is nonsensical. It is obvious that using the
abbreviation Eastern Standard Time (EST) and Eastern Summer Time (EST) is
useless at best. The fact that if you have time zones you need them to be
unambiguous is self evident, otherwise why have them.<SPAN
class=463483823-07042013> </SPAN></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">Stating
that there are conflicting messages from state and federal government regarding
the use of time zones in Australia is misleading. No State or federal government
proposes the use of EST/EST and CST/CST as the correct usage of time zone
abbreviations. Whilst there is some inconsistency in the usage of AEDT/EDT/EDST
within those sites when they explicitly state which time zone should be used it
is AEST/AEDT and ACST/ACDT.</SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">Finally,
the arguments around the usage of Eastern/Central Summer Time (EST/CST) being
the status Quo amongst Australians based off the survey conducted in the
following linked is flawed:<BR> <BR><A
title=http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2012-October/018364.html
href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2012-October/018364.html"><SPAN
title=http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2012-October/018364.html
style="COLOR: black">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2012-October/018364.html</SPAN></A>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">searching
for EDT or EST by themselves will return a number of things that have no
relation to time zones. Similarly, "Eastern Summer Time" and "Eastern Daylight
Time" do not necessarily relate to the usage of a particular abbreviation.
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">Searching
for the number of hits for the following st<SPAN
class=463483823-07042013>r</SPAN>ings gives a better understanding of the usage
of the relevant time zone acronyms in Australia:</SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">Google
results for au domain: </SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">45,100:
"Eastern Standard Time (EST)"<BR>82,400: "Eastern Standard Time
(AEST)"</SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">34,900:
"Eastern Summer Time (EST)"<BR>117: "Eastern Summer Time (AEST)"<BR>72,100:
"Eastern Daylight Time (EDT)"<BR>218,000: "Eastern Daylight Time
(AEDT)"</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">387,000:
"Central Standard Time (CST)"<BR>8,030: "Central Standard Time
(ACST)"</SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">3:
"Central Summer Time (CST)"<BR>3: "Central Summer Time (ACST)"<BR>22,300:
"Central Daylight Time (CDT)"<BR>1,460: "Central Daylight Time
(ACDT)"</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">Here
we are only looking at cases where the time zone abbreviation has been defined.
These results show that the abbreviation for Daylight time EDT/AEDT/CDT/ACDT is
overwhelmingly greater than the usage of the abbreviation for Summer time
EST/AEST/CST/ACST. Furthermore, varients of the search for "Eastern Daylight
Saving/s Time (A/EDT)" give another ~3,000 hits and variants of "Eastern
Daylight Saving/s Time (A/EDST)" only give ~ 500 results.</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">However,
a cursory glance still shows that many of these results are not related to
Australia. So this method is still flawed but I cannot think of a better way of
searching for the status Quo. </SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">Please
change the time zone abbreviations in Australia to EST/EDT and CST/CDT or
AEST/AEDT and ACST/ACDT.</SPAN></P>
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