<div dir="ltr"><div><div></div>I'm from Turkey and <i>still </i>there is no <span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">official </span></span><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">announcement about this delay as far as I know. Looks like Sozcu newspaper (<a href="http://www.sozcu.com.tr/2015/gunun-icinden/saatler-ne-zaman-geri-alinacak-yaz-saati-uygulamasinin-bitisi-ertelendi-940756/">http://www.sozcu.com.tr/2015/gunun-icinden/saatler-ne-zaman-geri-alinacak-yaz-saati-uygulamasinin-bitisi-ertelendi-940756/</a>) wrote it without any official </span></span><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">announcement. I tweeted and mailed to them but no feedback yet. </span></span><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">Usually, these DST changes </span></span><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">announce in Resmi Gazete (<a href="http://www.resmigazete.gov.tr/default.aspx">http://www.resmigazete.gov.tr/default.aspx</a>) as Matt mentioned. But there is no </span></span><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">announcement for this.<br><br></span></span></div><div><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">1,5 hour ago a new topic published in Haberturk (<a href="http://www.haberturk.com/ekonomi/enerji/haber/1131744-kis-saati-uygulamasi-ertelendi">http://www.haberturk.com/ekonomi/enerji/haber/1131744-kis-saati-uygulamasi-ertelendi</a>) on this topic. And it says;<br><br></span></span></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">Government Spokesman Numan Kurtulmuş (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numan_Kurtulmu%C5%9F">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numan_Kurtulmu%C5%9F</a>): "Department of Energy <b>continues </b>study. </span></span><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><i>Most probably</i>, it will be delay 15 days </span></span></span></span><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">ahead (from Oct 25th to Nov 8th). </span></span></span></span></span></span><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">This</span> <span class="">is considered</span> <span class="">as one of</span> <span class="">the</span> <span class="">national selection</span> precautions. On 8 or 9 November, DST will be canceled and </span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class=""><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">it will switch</span> <span class="">to normal time</span></span></span></span></span></span></span>."<br></span></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>IMHO, it is <i>okey </i>to update tz database as Paul did.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Paul Eggert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eggert@cs.ucla.edu" target="_blank">eggert@cs.ucla.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 09/21/2015 01:41 PM, Deborah Goldsmith wrote:<br>
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when you’re pushing bits to hundreds of millions of devices you need to do thorough testing. There are also release cycles, as users don’t like to be bombarded with requests to update their devices too frequently<br>
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Red Hat and Ubuntu have tens of millions of users. This difference in scale does not explain why Apple can take over six months to propagate a small change to time zone data, whereas Ubuntu can do it in a few hours. More plausibly, the difference comes from Apple bundling time zone data into its operating systems and requiring a full test cycle and OS upgrade in order to install fixes, whereas Red Hat, Ubuntu, etc. treat time zone data separately and routinely issue minor updates for just a few small files, which can be tested separately.<br>
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The incremental approach is better for end users and for developers and for testers, and one way or another Apple needs to change its software process to support it. Any such change is needed regardless of what tzdata does, because governments typically don't notify us a year in advance. Of course a development-organization battleship cannot turn on a dime, but that's OK; there's no rush, as in the meantime you can cherry-pick changes from the experimental version on Github as needed.<span class=""><br>
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If there is impact on IANA from releasing more frequent updates<br>
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There is some impact on IANA, though not much: they are mostly just hosting the data. There is more impact on me, and on development organizations downstream from tzdata. Every time I do a release, I check over the distribution; some of this work is automated and some is not. My work is volunteer and my time is limited. The situation is similar for many other downstream developers. Most do not have the resources of Ubuntu or Red Hat, much less Apple or Google.<br>
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