<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>My understanding is that the following things have happened, in order…</div><div><br></div><div><b>2016-03-27: </b>Turkey moved its clocks forward (to UTC+3) according to prior practice.</div><div><br></div><div><b>2016-09-07:</b> <a href="http://www.resmigazete.gov.tr/eskiler/2016/09/20160908-2.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.resmigazete.gov.tr/eskiler/2016/09/20160908-2.pdf</a> (Law 2016/9154) indicates in Article 1 that this advanced time should continue year-round, and in Article 2 that falling back (to UTC+2), previously scheduled for 2016-10-30, was repealed. And, indeed, Turkey has stayed on UTC+3 since.</div><div><br></div><div><b>2017-10-23:</b> <a href="http://www.resmigazete.gov.tr/eskiler/2017/10/20171028-5.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.resmigazete.gov.tr/eskiler/2017/10/20171028-5.pdf</a> (Law 2017/10921), which you point out is the most recent law, indicates as you state, in Article 1a, that the prior Law 2016/9154 is repealed resulting in a resumption of DST clock changes, and in Article 1b that this would start with clocks moving back by 1 hour (to UTC+2) roughly a year later, on 2018-10-28.</div><div>We prepared and applied a patch for this news in <a href="https://github.com/eggert/tz/commit/25632eb33943fbb42220f1cc99c3f7cd070a986c" target="_blank">https://github.com/eggert/tz/commit/25632eb33943fbb42220f1cc99c3f7cd070a986c</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>2017-11-08:</b> <a href="http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/son-dakika-yaz-saati-uygulamasi-surekli-hale-geldi-40637482" target="_blank">http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/son-dakika-yaz-saati-uygulamasi-surekli-hale-geldi-40637482</a> appears to have indicated that Law 2017/10921 was blocked from taking effect. This may have been a poor translation on our part; we understood it to mean "DST [would] become 'continuous'" — that is, Turkey would stay on UTC+3 indefinitely — and discussed this at <a href="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2017-November/025518.html" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2017-November/025518.html</a> as Matt Johnson pointed out.</div><div>We updated our data to reflect that understanding in <a href="https://github.com/eggert/tz/commit/e15ef79a603a2fba89ad8f38090219b0580f31a9" target="_blank">https://github.com/eggert/tz/commit/e15ef79a603a2fba89ad8f38090219b0580f31a9</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>If you can provide a better translation of the 2017-11-08 Hürriyet article which helps to indicate whether we were wrong in that assumption, then we very much would welcome that help in understanding what is going on.</div><div><br></div><div>Otherwise, as it stands, our current understanding comes from our translation of that article, which has indicated that clocks in Turkey will not be changed on 2018-10-28. This is also why I ask whether there is any documentation (from government, courts, or national news outlets) that is more recent than 2017-11-08 which clarifies more definitively, as that would help confirm what you're saying to us. If not, we will unfortunately probably just have to wait and see what actually happens on the ground, or at least until we get closer to the date and further laws, statements, or news articles clarify what is actually supposed to happen.</div><div><br></div><div>Unfortunately, the article Paul Eggert shared at <a href="http://www.haber7.com/guncel/haber/2715726-2018-kis-saati-ne-zaman-hangi-tarihte-basliyor-saatler-geri-alinacak-mi" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.haber7.com/guncel/haber/2715726-2018-kis-saati-ne-zaman-hangi-tarihte-basliyor-saatler-geri-alinacak-mi</a> does not seem to clarify matters.</div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_2307065057238457548gmail_signature">--<br>Tim Parenti<br></div></div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 at 11:53, Adil Ilhan <<a href="mailto:info@adililhan.com" target="_blank">info@adililhan.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 at 18:10, Tim Parenti <<a href="mailto:tim@timtimeonline.com" target="_blank">tim@timtimeonline.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Both of those pages pre-date the discussion from 2017-11-08 which Matt pointed out (<a href="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2017-November/025518.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2017-November/025518.html</a>) that indicates the 2018-10-28 was later cancelled. The timeanddate link even alludes to the cancellation in an update at the top of their article.<br>
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> Are they any official publications more recent than 2017-11 reaffirming or refuting what will happen to Turkish clocks on 2018-10-28?<br>
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I think, there is a translation error. Actually, it is the latest<br>
publication [ <a href="http://www.resmigazete.gov.tr/eskiler/2017/10/20171028-5.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.resmigazete.gov.tr/eskiler/2017/10/20171028-5.pdf</a><br>
].<br>
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I marked 2 sentences: <a href="https://imgur.com/a/Iqo05eS" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://imgur.com/a/Iqo05eS</a><br>
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First one says: "As of October 28, 2018 04:00 AM, entire country will<br>
be set back 1 hour."<br>
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Second one says: "2016-9-7 dated and 2016/9154 law no. has been<br>
repealed by the council of ministers' decision"<br>
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-- <br>
Adil İlhan<br>
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