<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">On Oct 4, 2018, at 12:35, John Haxby <<a href="mailto:john.haxby@oracle.com" class="">john.haxby@oracle.com</a>> wrote:<div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I think, even so, this will not fix the problem. Instead of complaining about the Europe/Kiev name, they'll be complaining about the spelling of the mapping from an opaque identifier to Europe/Kiev.</span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div><div class="">Exactly. At *some* point in the chain, these zones need to get turned into geographical names that people can recognize. In some regions, that naming process is fraught with dispute and emotion; unfortunately, due to the very nature of what tzdb is and does, we are never going to be free from that aspect. Thus, changing the current identifiers would merely add confusion for users and complexity to the code without addressing the essence of the issue.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That cartoon from Xkcd posted here last week [<a href="https://xkcd.com/2050/" class="">https://xkcd.com/2050/</a>] somehow feels relevant… :)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">|----------------------------------------------------------------------|</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">| Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. | Chief Developer |</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">| | Paravel Systems |</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">|----------------------------------------------------------------------|</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">| A room without books is like a body without a soul. |</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">| -- Cicero |</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">|----------------------------------------------------------------------|</span></div></div></body></html>