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1. Re: Please remove tzdata2018f (Paul Eggert)<br>
2. Re: Please remove tzdata2018f (Philip Paeps)<br>
3. Re: Please remove tzdata2018f (Marcos Passos)<br>
4. Re: Please remove tzdata2018f (Marcos Passos)<br>
5. Re: Please remove tzdata2018f (Philip Paeps)<br>
6. Re: Please remove tzdata2018f (Brian Inglis)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 11:03:25 -0800<br>
From: Paul Eggert <<a href="mailto:eggert@cs.ucla.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">eggert@cs.ucla.edu</a>><br>
To: Ankur Rana <<a href="mailto:ankur.rana@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ankur.rana@ericsson.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:tz@iana.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tz@iana.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:tz@iana.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tz@iana.org</a>><br>
Cc: "Sunil A. K." <<a href="mailto:sunil.a.k@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sunil.a.k@ericsson.com</a>>, Nishit Khosla<br>
<<a href="mailto:Nishit.Khosla@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Nishit.Khosla@ericsson.com</a>>, Jaspreet Singh D<br>
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Subject: Re: [tz] Please remove tzdata2018f<br>
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On 2/20/19 11:31 PM, Ankur Rana wrote:<br>
> would it be possible to prevent the tzdata version 2018f from <br>
> downloading on iana site?<br>
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Although it would be possible I doubt whether it would be a good idea. <br>
2018f does work for many downstream users, and these users wouldn't <br>
benefit by its withdrawal from publication. Besides, standard practice <br>
should be to use the latest version, falling back on a previous version <br>
only if there's trouble.<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 09:55:05 +0900<br>
From: "Philip Paeps" <<a href="mailto:philip@trouble.is" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">philip@trouble.is</a>><br>
To: "Ankur Rana" <<a href="mailto:ankur.rana@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ankur.rana@ericsson.com</a>><br>
Cc: "Sunil A. K." <<a href="mailto:sunil.a.k@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sunil.a.k@ericsson.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:tz@iana.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tz@iana.org</a>, Nishit Khosla<br>
<<a href="mailto:Nishit.Khosla@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Nishit.Khosla@ericsson.com</a>>, Jaspreet Singh D<br>
<<a href="mailto:jaspreet.d.singh@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jaspreet.d.singh@ericsson.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [tz] Please remove tzdata2018f<br>
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On 2019-02-21 16:31:39 (+0900), Ankur Rana wrote:<br>
> While doing tzdata upgrade to version 2018f<br>
<br>
Note that you should really be upgrading to 2018i, which is the latest <br>
version.<br>
<br>
> java.lang.Exception: Failed while parsing file '/tmp/tz.tmp/asia' on <br>
> line 1842 'Rule Japan 1948 1951 - Sep Sat>=8 25:00 0 <br>
> S'<br>
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Java is known to be broken with respect to the last ten years or so of <br>
changes to the tzdb data format. You'll need to generate "rearguard" <br>
format data to feed to the Java updater.<br>
<br>
Paul also helpfully provides rearguard tarballs on his webpage <br>
<a href="https://web.cs.ucla.edu/~eggert/tz/release/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://web.cs.ucla.edu/~eggert/tz/release/</a>.<br>
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You can easily generate those yourself by running make <br>
rearguard_tarballs on the distribution from <a href="http://iana.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">iana.org</a>.<br>
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> To avoid any reoccurrence of same, would it be possible to prevent the <br>
> tzdata version 2018f from downloading on iana site?<br>
<br>
It seems silly to pull one release from an archive going back to 1993 <br>
because one third-party implementation (even if it's a popular one) <br>
cannot cope with the data format.<br>
<br>
Philip<br>
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-- <br>
Philip Paeps<br>
Senior Reality Engineer<br>
Ministry of Information<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 22:14:52 -0300<br>
From: Marcos Passos <<a href="mailto:marcospassos.com@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">marcospassos.com@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Philip Paeps <<a href="mailto:philip@trouble.is" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">philip@trouble.is</a>>, Stephen Colebourne<br>
<<a href="mailto:scolebourne@joda.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">scolebourne@joda.org</a>><br>
Cc: Nishit Khosla <<a href="mailto:Nishit.Khosla@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Nishit.Khosla@ericsson.com</a>>, "Sunil A. K."<br>
<<a href="mailto:sunil.a.k@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sunil.a.k@ericsson.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:tz@iana.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tz@iana.org</a>, Ankur Rana<br>
<<a href="mailto:ankur.rana@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ankur.rana@ericsson.com</a>>, Jaspreet Singh D<br>
<<a href="mailto:jaspreet.d.singh@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jaspreet.d.singh@ericsson.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [tz] Please remove tzdata2018f<br>
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Stephen can confirm it, but I built all versions since 2018 using JSR-310<br>
a few months and the result was correct.<br>
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 21:55 Philip Paeps <<a href="mailto:philip@trouble.is" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">philip@trouble.is</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On 2019-02-21 16:31:39 (+0900), Ankur Rana wrote:<br>
> > While doing tzdata upgrade to version 2018f<br>
><br>
> Note that you should really be upgrading to 2018i, which is the latest<br>
> version.<br>
><br>
> > java.lang.Exception: Failed while parsing file '/tmp/tz.tmp/asia' on<br>
> > line 1842 'Rule Japan 1948 1951 - Sep Sat>=8 25:00 0<br>
> > S'<br>
><br>
> Java is known to be broken with respect to the last ten years or so of<br>
> changes to the tzdb data format. You'll need to generate "rearguard"<br>
> format data to feed to the Java updater.<br>
><br>
> Paul also helpfully provides rearguard tarballs on his webpage<br>
> <a href="https://web.cs.ucla.edu/~eggert/tz/release/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://web.cs.ucla.edu/~eggert/tz/release/</a>.<br>
><br>
> You can easily generate those yourself by running make<br>
> rearguard_tarballs on the distribution from <a href="http://iana.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">iana.org</a>.<br>
><br>
> > To avoid any reoccurrence of same, would it be possible to prevent the<br>
> > tzdata version 2018f from downloading on iana site?<br>
><br>
> It seems silly to pull one release from an archive going back to 1993<br>
> because one third-party implementation (even if it's a popular one)<br>
> cannot cope with the data format.<br>
><br>
> Philip<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Philip Paeps<br>
> Senior Reality Engineer<br>
> Ministry of Information<br>
><br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 22:17:11 -0300<br>
From: Marcos Passos <<a href="mailto:marcospassos.com@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">marcospassos.com@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Philip Paeps <<a href="mailto:philip@trouble.is" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">philip@trouble.is</a>>, Stephen Colebourne<br>
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Cc: Nishit Khosla <<a href="mailto:Nishit.Khosla@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Nishit.Khosla@ericsson.com</a>>, "Sunil A. K."<br>
<<a href="mailto:sunil.a.k@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sunil.a.k@ericsson.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:tz@iana.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tz@iana.org</a>, Ankur Rana<br>
<<a href="mailto:ankur.rana@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ankur.rana@ericsson.com</a>>, Jaspreet Singh D<br>
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Subject: Re: [tz] Please remove tzdata2018f<br>
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*a few months ago<br>
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 22:14 Marcos Passos <<a href="mailto:marcospassos.com@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">marcospassos.com@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
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> Stephen can confirm it, but I built all versions since 2018 using JSR-310<br>
> a few months and the result was correct.<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 21:55 Philip Paeps <<a href="mailto:philip@trouble.is" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">philip@trouble.is</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> On 2019-02-21 16:31:39 (+0900), Ankur Rana wrote:<br>
>> > While doing tzdata upgrade to version 2018f<br>
>><br>
>> Note that you should really be upgrading to 2018i, which is the latest<br>
>> version.<br>
>><br>
>> > java.lang.Exception: Failed while parsing file '/tmp/tz.tmp/asia' on<br>
>> > line 1842 'Rule Japan 1948 1951 - Sep Sat>=8 25:00 0<br>
>> > S'<br>
>><br>
>> Java is known to be broken with respect to the last ten years or so of<br>
>> changes to the tzdb data format. You'll need to generate "rearguard"<br>
>> format data to feed to the Java updater.<br>
>><br>
>> Paul also helpfully provides rearguard tarballs on his webpage<br>
>> <a href="https://web.cs.ucla.edu/~eggert/tz/release/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://web.cs.ucla.edu/~eggert/tz/release/</a>.<br>
>><br>
>> You can easily generate those yourself by running make<br>
>> rearguard_tarballs on the distribution from <a href="http://iana.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">iana.org</a>.<br>
>><br>
>> > To avoid any reoccurrence of same, would it be possible to prevent the<br>
>> > tzdata version 2018f from downloading on iana site?<br>
>><br>
>> It seems silly to pull one release from an archive going back to 1993<br>
>> because one third-party implementation (even if it's a popular one)<br>
>> cannot cope with the data format.<br>
>><br>
>> Philip<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Philip Paeps<br>
>> Senior Reality Engineer<br>
>> Ministry of Information<br>
>><br>
><br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 10:19:26 +0900<br>
From: "Philip Paeps" <<a href="mailto:philip@trouble.is" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">philip@trouble.is</a>><br>
To: "Marcos Passos" <<a href="mailto:marcospassos.com@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">marcospassos.com@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:tz@iana.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tz@iana.org</a>, "Sunil A. K." <<a href="mailto:sunil.a.k@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sunil.a.k@ericsson.com</a>>, Stephen<br>
Colebourne <<a href="mailto:scolebourne@joda.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">scolebourne@joda.org</a>>, Nishit Khosla<br>
<<a href="mailto:Nishit.Khosla@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Nishit.Khosla@ericsson.com</a>>, Ankur Rana <<a href="mailto:ankur.rana@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ankur.rana@ericsson.com</a>>,<br>
Jaspreet Singh D <<a href="mailto:jaspreet.d.singh@ericsson.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jaspreet.d.singh@ericsson.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [tz] Please remove tzdata2018f<br>
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On 2019-02-22 10:14:52 (+0900), Marcos Passos wrote:<br>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 21:55 Philip Paeps <<a href="mailto:philip@trouble.is" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">philip@trouble.is</a>> wrote:<br>
>> On 2019-02-21 16:31:39 (+0900), Ankur Rana wrote:<br>
>>> While doing tzdata upgrade to version 2018f<br>
>><br>
>> Note that you should really be upgrading to 2018i, which is the <br>
>> latest version.<br>
>><br>
>>> java.lang.Exception: Failed while parsing file '/tmp/tz.tmp/asia' on<br>
>>> line 1842 'Rule Japan 1948 1951 - Sep Sat>=8 25:00 <br>
>>> 0<br>
>>> S'<br>
>><br>
>> Java is known to be broken with respect to the last ten years or so <br>
>> of changes to the tzdb data format. You'll need to generate <br>
>> "rearguard" format data to feed to the Java updater.<br>
><br>
> Stephen can confirm it, but I built all versions since 2018 using <br>
> JSR-310 a few months and the result was correct.<br>
<br>
Good to know!<br>
<br>
Last I read on the tz mailing list, the Java tzdb parser doesn't like <br>
negative SAVE rules or more than 24 hours in a day. Happy to hear that <br>
was fixed at last.<br>
<br>
Thank you for pointing that out.<br>
<br>
Philip<br>
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-- <br>
Philip Paeps<br>
Senior Reality Engineer<br>
Ministry of Information<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 21:00:39 -0700<br>
From: Brian Inglis <<a href="mailto:Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:tz@iana.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tz@iana.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [tz] Please remove tzdata2018f<br>
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On 2019-02-21 18:19, Philip Paeps wrote:<br>
> On 2019-02-22 10:14:52 (+0900), Marcos Passos wrote:<br>
>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 21:55 Philip Paeps <<a href="mailto:philip@trouble.is" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">philip@trouble.is</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> On 2019-02-21 16:31:39 (+0900), Ankur Rana wrote:<br>
>>>> While doing tzdata upgrade to version 2018f<br>
<br>
>>> Note that you should really be upgrading to 2018i, which is the latest version.<br>
<br>
>>>> java.lang.Exception: Failed while parsing file '/tmp/tz.tmp/asia' on<br>
>>>> line 1842 'Rule????? Japan 1948? 1951? -???? Sep?? Sat>=8????? 25:00 0 ??? S'<br>
<br>
>>> Java is known to be broken with respect to the last ten years or so of<br>
>>> changes to the tzdb data format.? You'll need to generate "rearguard" format<br>
>>> data to feed to the Java updater.<br>
<br>
>> Stephen can confirm it,? but I built all versions since 2018 using JSR-310 a<br>
>> few months and the result was correct.<br>
<br>
> Last I read on the tz mailing list, the Java tzdb parser doesn't like negative<br>
> SAVE rules or more than 24 hours in a day.? Happy to hear that was fixed at last.<br>
> Thank you for pointing that out.<br>
<br>
Marcos didn't say whether it was vanguard, standard, or rearguard format data<br>
that was used for 2018. As JSR 310 appears to be unchanged since 2014, until<br>
Marcos or Stephen explicitly states otherwise, it would be safer to continue to<br>
assume that rearguard format data is required.<br>
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Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada<br>
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