<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr"><br>The claim that Turkey had double daylight time in 1940/41 as was published in <a href="http://www.astrolojidergisi.com/yazsaati.htm">http://www.astrolojidergisi.com/yazsaati.htm</a></div><div dir="ltr">has now been retracted. I had insisted on a double check, because the wording in official documents is often unclear and ambiguous.<br><br><br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><b>Von:</b> Barış İlhan <<a href="mailto:barisilhan@superonline.com">barisilhan@superonline.com</a>><br><b>Datum:</b> 15. August 2019 um 12:30:13 MESZ<br><b>An:</b> "'Alois Treindl'" <<a href="mailto:alois@astro.ch">alois@astro.ch</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> <b>Aw: Turkey timezone change October 1978</b><br><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Alois,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I got in touch with the researcher, she said she made a correction for 1941 for one day, after she searched the newspapers. She came to the conclution that a sentence was written wrong in the official legal gazette.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">So the final list is this for 1941;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="0" style="margin-left:-12.6pt;border-collapse:collapse;border:none"><tbody><tr><td width="195" valign="top" style="width:146.2pt;border-top:double 2.25pt;border-left:double 2.25pt;border-bottom:solid 1.0pt;border-right:solid 1.0pt;border-color:black;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">01.07.1940 saat 00.00</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></td><td width="210" valign="top" style="width:157.45pt;border-top:double black 2.25pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">06.10.1940 saat 00.00<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width="150" valign="top" style="width:112.45pt;border-top:double black 2.25pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">1 hour<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td width="195" valign="top" style="width:146.2pt;border-top:none;border-left:double black 2.25pt;border-bottom:solid black 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">01.12.1940 saat 00.00<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> <b> -<o:p></o:p></b></span></p></td><td width="210" valign="top" style="width:157.45pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">21.09.1941 saat 00.00<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width="150" valign="top" style="width:112.45pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">1 hour <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td width="195" valign="top" style="width:146.2pt;border-top:none;border-left:double black 2.25pt;border-bottom:double black 2.25pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">01.04.1942 saat 00.00<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width="210" valign="top" style="width:157.45pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:double black 2.25pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">08.10.1945 saat 00.00<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:red"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></td><td width="150" valign="top" style="width:112.45pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:double black 2.25pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">1 hour</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The Milliye gazete archive will not be helpful, because that newspaper was founded in 1950.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Baris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> Alois Treindl [<a href="mailto:alois@astro.ch">mailto:alois@astro.ch</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 15, 2019 12:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> Barış İlhan <<a href="mailto:barisilhan@superonline.com">barisilhan@superonline.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Turkey timezone change October 1978<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 14.08.19 23:30, Barış İlhan wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It looks complicated but actually it is clear.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In 1941 the government first announced 1 hour, and the next day 1 hour more. At the second announcement it says first announcement is still valid, so it makes 2 hours. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Baris</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote></div></blockquote><p>Sorry, but we need to see this reports in public newspapers, both at the beginning and at the end of the period in question<o:p></o:p></p><p>Newspapers do say things like 'clock shifts backward one hour' at the end of daylight saving time. In that case, around 21 September 1941, the newspapers must have mentioned a clock shift by two hours.<o:p></o:p></p><p>The paper archive <a href="http://gazetearsivi.milliyet.com.tr/">http://gazetearsivi.milliyet.com.tr/</a> is accessible for free and is searchable. My problem is that I cannot read Turkish.<o:p></o:p></p><p>We do not trust the wording of formal government announcements. They have been unclear at other occasions, for example in 1978.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>