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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05.09.19 21:31, Michael H Deckers
wrote:<br>
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On 2019-09-05 16:20, Alois Treindl wrote:
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This is just a question to some well informed readers of this
mailing list.
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Liberated France ended daylight saving time on 8 October 1944,
01:00, as represented in zone Europe/Paris.
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Eastern parts of France were still occupied by the German army
at that time, and Germany ended DST in 1944 on 2 October 1922,
02:00s = 03:00, as represented in TZ
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by Europe/Berlin, rule C-Eur.
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For occupied France however, Shanks claims the end of DST on 3
Oct 1944 03:00. For all other countries in Europe on German time
at that moment, Shanks holds that DST ended 2 October, like in
Germany itself.
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I cannot find a source supporting Shanks' claim for the
deviation in France.
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Does anyone have information supporting Shanks' claim?
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I only have a source arguing against that claim of Shanks'.
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The paper [Yvonne Poulle: "La France à l’heure allemande"],
online
y<br>
at
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.persee.fr/doc/bec_0373-6237_1999_num_157_2_450989">https://www.persee.fr/doc/bec_0373-6237_1999_num_157_2_450989</a>],
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describes at length how France arrived at a common civil
time scale in
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both occupied and free territory. It seems to say [p 501]
that the switch
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to summer time (UT + 02 h) in 1944 followed German rules,
while the
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switch back to UT + 01 h was as ordered by the provisional
government.
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Michael Deckers.
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<p>Thank you for this interesting link.</p>
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There is no mention of October 1944 in this interesting document.<br>
I only find a decree by the (liberated) French government about the
end of DST on 8 Oct 1944.<br>
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<p>The parts of France occupied by Germany on 3 October 1944
correspond roughly to the provinces Alsace and Lorraine (German:
Elsass und Lothringen) which had been part of the German Reich
between 1971 and 1918 and then went back to France.</p>
<p>Germany under the Nazis considered them de facto as part of
Germany since 1940, but the legal status was undefined - they were
not mentioned in the contract with France of 1940. <br>
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I think one is safe to assume that the DST regulation for 1944 was
de facto valid for these two provinces, as far as they were still
in German hands.<br>
In our Astrodienst time zone database, I will modify the date
given by Shanks from 3 Oct to 2 Oct, for the occupied areas.<br>
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<p>The German law does not mention them. It mentions only some
eastern areas under German administration.<br>
<img src="cid:part1.14B65E87.F3CAB3D6@astro.ch" alt=""></p>
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