[UA-discuss] What are the main things to do in UASG?

Tue Feb 17 01:13:10 UTC 2015

I agree with you Michele that this is not an issue limited to IDNs, however,
I still believe that if we solve the IDN issue, we will solve the ASCII new
TLD issue.

So as a "moral high ground" if you will, for ICANN with this as a
community-wide project, I think it is better to have IDN be the "primary"
focus so that it gets the support from the whole community. If we had a
primary focus on ASCII TLDs, I worry we will lose the support we need from
many parts of the community.

That is not to say we only focus on IDN.  But the IDN banner I believe helps
us rally this as a global effort for the Internet.

Edmon

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Mark 

That's good, but that's assuming that Universal Acceptance is limited to
IDNs, whereas in reality the issue is much wider. At present a lot of online
services and software do not recognise new TLDs - be they ASCII or IDN.

So while incorporating that language is excellent, I'd hate to see IDNs as
being the primary focus

Regards

Michele

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Yes, I also agree with Michele and Nick.

As a starter:  

"International character sets, whether in Unicode or Punycode, are
inconsistently managed by existing software products and existing online
services.  These inconsistencies arise both from non-support of the RFCs or
from support for outdated versions of these RFCs. 

Software and service providers have historically had little market or
regulatory incentive to invest in solutions which would bring true
interoperability to platforms or applications.  Democratization of computing
and greater availability of Internationalized Domain Names are likely to
upset this status quo.  

A coordinated industry effort is required to ensure a timely and practical
resolution to this pending  change." 

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I'd agree with Nick

Defining the problem should be key

Everything else comes after that

Regards

Michele

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I'm coming in a bit late but that gives me good perspective and I think the
total list from Ram is accurate. However, I'd argue that both Christian is
right with defining structure and charger, but also first - we should define
the Problem space. 

The problem space to me is ultimately why we're all here right. "What are we
trying to solve for?" and even more so, "How is this group going to benefit
the ultimate end-user?" 

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Ram, 

I think this is a good list with one proposed change. I am 3-4 pages into a
draft charter for people to look at, which proposes a structure. I'd say we
need an agreed-on structure before we pick leaders to fill defined roles, so
I suggest flipping 1 and 2.

I probably can't get far enough along to put my draft charter up for review
until tomorrow - chairing a small anti-SPAM working group on SPAM in the
Cloud at M3AAWG today. (If anybody else from this group is at M3AAWG come
find me and we can chat/complain about timezones together.)

-Christian

On Feb 14, 2015, at 11:21 AM, Ram Mohan <rmohan at afilias.info> wrote:

Team,

Trying to get an inventory of the main tasks in front of the UASG, in
chronological order:

1.       Group leadership

2.       Group structure and charter

3.       Definition of problem space

4.       Prioritization of problem space

5.       Definition of approach to problem spaces

6.       Delegation of work

7.       Execution of work

8.       Follow-through

Appreciate input.

-Ram

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