[UA-discuss] What is the scope of Universal Acceptance? (was Re: this would be amusing if it wasn't so predictable)

Dusan Stojicevic dusan at dukes.in.rs
Fri Feb 20 09:10:19 UTC 2015


One issue that is UA, in my point of view. Back in Singapore, I was 
testing registration software. In attach You have pictures of my 
attempts to print ID tags in IDN. Is this UA issue?
And for the record - what is written on ID tags should be clear to 
everybody, but imagine dual script ID tags - ASCII (clear to everybody) 
and native script (my real name is not correctly written in ASCII and I 
want to have my real name on ID tag).

If this is UA, then>
         ·Allows entry of international chars into UI input controls - 
*WORKS*

·Can correctly render International strings - *WORKS*

·Can correctly render RTL strings – /NOT TESTED/

·Can communicate data between apps and services in formats which support 
Unicode and are convertible to/from UTF-8 – _FAILS_

·Offers public APIs which support Unicode & UTF-8 – /NOT TESTED/

·Offers private APIs which support Unicode & UTF-8 (these private APIs 
apply only to inter-service calls by the same vendor) – /NOT TESTED/

·Stores user data  values as a type which allows Unicode and is 
convertible to/from UTF-8 (visible only to the product/service owner) – 
*WORKS*__

·Can send email to recipients with such email address – /NOT TESTED/

·Can receive email from senders with such email address – /NOT TESTED/

·Supports accounts associated with both an ASCII and Unicode email 
address – /NOT TESTED/

         ·Supports all domain name strings in the Public Suffix List 
regardless of length – /NOT TESTED/

Regards,
Dušan

On 19.2.2015 23:30, Mark Svancarek wrote:
>
> It’s a fair question.  Here the failure happens when editing the 
> non-email portion of an online profile.
>
> Comparing the page to our existing requirements:
>
> ·Allows entry of international chars into UI input controls - *WORKS*
>
> ·Can correctly render International strings - *WORKS*
>
> ·Can correctly render RTL strings – /NOT TESTED/
>
> ·Can communicate data between apps and services in formats which 
> support Unicode and are convertible to/from UTF-8 – _FAILS - REJECTS 
> THE STRING_
>
> ·Offers public APIs which support Unicode & UTF-8 – /NOT TESTED/
>
> ·Offers private APIs which support Unicode & UTF-8 (these private APIs 
> apply only to inter-service calls by the same vendor) – /NOT TESTED/
>
> ·Stores user data  values as a type which allows Unicode and is 
> convertible to/from UTF-8 (visible only to the product/service owner) 
> – _FAILS - REJECTS THE STRING_
>
> ·Can send email to recipients with such email address – /NOT TESTED/
>
> ·Can receive email from senders with such email address – /NOT TESTED/
>
> ·Supports accounts associated with both an ASCII and Unicode email 
> address – /NOT TESTED/
>
> ·Supports all domain name strings in the Public Suffix List regardless 
> of length – /NOT TESTED/
>
> The site fails our criteria, though in a new context (not an email).
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> *From:* Francisco Arias [mailto:francisco.arias at icann.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:08 PM
> *To:* Mark Svancarek; rmohan at afilias.info; M3 Sweatt; UA-discuss at icann.org
> *Subject:* What is the scope of Universal Acceptance? (was Re: 
> [UA-discuss] this would be amusing if it wasn't so predictable)
>
> I’m not arguing about this, just would like to understand what is 
> being proposed since, as far as I understand, so far, the scope has 
> been the three issues I mentioned below. What would be the new scope 
> of Universal Acceptance that is being proposed?
>
> -- 
>
> Francisco.
>
> On 2/19/15, 11:40 AM, "Mark Svancarek" <marksv at microsoft.com 
> <mailto:marksv at microsoft.com>> wrote:
>
>     It seems like it should be UA; we will need to add another
>     requirement list for user input controls (can enter, renders, RTL,
>     storage, APIs).
>
>     *From:*Ram Mohan [mailto:rmohan at afilias.info]
>     *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:23 AM
>     *To:* Francisco Arias; M3 Sweatt; Mark Svancarek;
>     UA-discuss at icann.org <mailto:UA-discuss at icann.org>
>     *Subject:* RE: [UA-discuss] this would be amusing if it wasn't so
>     predictable
>
>     I’d consider this still in the UA area – since non-ASCII
>     characters are not being accepted “natively”
>
>     *From:*Francisco Arias [mailto:francisco.arias at icann.org
>     <mailto:francisco.arias at icann.org>]
>     *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:17 PM
>     *To:* M3 Sweatt; Mark Svancarek; UA-discuss at icann.org
>     <mailto:UA-discuss at icann.org>
>     *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] this would be amusing if it wasn't so
>     predictable
>
>     Thanks for reporting this Mark, I’ll pass this report internally.
>
>     Now, this is not UA related since there is no new TLD, IDNs, or
>     EAI involved, correct?
>
>     -- 
>
>     Francisco.
>
>     On 2/19/15, 10:26 AM, "M3 Sweatt" <msweatt at microsoft.com
>     <mailto:msweatt at microsoft.com>> wrote:
>
>         I expect to see similar results when others attempt such
>         updates. ;)
>
>         Perhaps this limitation can be addressed?
>
>         Sent from my Windows Phone. Replies may be brief and may have
>         spelling errors.
>
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>         *From: *Mark Svancarek <mailto:marksv at microsoft.com>
>         *Sent: *‎2/‎19/‎2015 8:16 AM
>         *To: *UA-discuss at icann.org <mailto:ua-discuss at icann.org>
>         *Subject: *[UA-discuss] this would be amusing if it wasn't so
>         predictable
>
>         I tried to update my ICANN profile page today:
>



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