[UA-discuss] Any help needed?

Mon Jul 13 22:14:41 UTC 2015

Etuate, I think using the OSI stalk model here is not correct, a
system/software may collect available data from any layer, in this case IP
addresses as well as e-mail addresses, for different purposes I know, but
it stores them anyway.

Both, validation scripts and database fields should be prepared to receive
old and new gTLDs e-mail addresses, as well as IPv4 and IPv6 IP addresses.

That is why I was insisting in sharing a single communication effort to
software companies/developers and accomplish two objectives.

Anyway, thanks everyone for your replys, as I said before, I am new to this
group so I am going to trust the old ones judgement and obviously respect
the previous work and help in anyway it is needed from a communication
point of view :D

Mark, I just read your e-mail, thanks for clarifying and nice footnote! Are
you member in any IPv6 group I could also help with?

Thanks!!

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Mark Svancarek <marksv at microsoft.com>
wrote:

>  While I still agree that IPv6 doesn’t belong here, I’d like to clarify
> Miguel’s point.
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> It’s true that everyone “knows” IPv6 is being implemented.  Few actually
> watch the <http://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/> stats
> <http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html> or proactively
> calculate the ROI.  They know they have been dodging it for years and don’t
> necessarily know that things have
> <http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/07/us-exhausts-new-ipv4-addresses-waitlist-begins/>
> changed
> <http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/datacenter/datacenter-blog/apple-set-to-give-ipv6-a-giant-boost.html>.
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> It’s good to reach out to them.  I am Microsoft corporate owner for IPv6
> as well as UA, and I’ve been wondering how to use ICANN to move the
> industry a little faster.  But other than as a footnote (“If you like UA,
> you’ll love IPv6 – contact marksv” J ) I’m not sure how we would tie
> these things together.
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> Feel free to reach out to me privately if you have any other ideas about
> IPv6!
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> marksv at microsoft.com
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> *From:* ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Etuate Cocker
> *Sent:* Monday, July 13, 2015 2:14 PM
> *To:* Miguel Ignacio Estrada; UA-discuss at icann.org
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> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] Any help needed?
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> This does not make any sense at all. IPv6 is a global thing and every
> developer out there should know about it unless they are in a very remote
> part of the world. They can even use google to find out how to integrate
> their application with V6. I agree with others, we should not be mixing UA
> and IPv6 here. We are talking about two different layers (3 and 7) in the
> OSI stack.
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>    Etuate Cocker
> Network/Systems Engineer,
> Spark Digital N.Z Ltd,
> CCNA, CCNP, CCAI, CEH.
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> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Miguel Ignacio Estrada <
> miestrada at gmail.com> wrote:
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>  Maybe I didn't express myself well, what I meant was not referred to
> IPv6 implementation. What I wanted to say is that, since we are already
> going to talk with software developers, we should also make them aware that
> IPv6 is being implemented and their software should also be ready for that.
> I am thinking about IP validation or storage in their systems IPs in IPv6
> format.
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> Thanks!
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> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Jordyn Buchanan <jordyn at google.com>
> wrote:
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>  I agree with Martin and Mark that including IPv6 doesn't make sense.  In
> addition to the fact that the RIRs are already working on it, the
> acceptance problems are quite different, we'd be targeting different
> organizations as key targets, and would even be generally talking to
> different parts of most organizations to make the implementation happen.
> So there's not a lot to be gained by trying to combine the two and it might
> be quite confusing.
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> Jordyn
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> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Hannigan, Martin <marty at akamai.com>
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> Agreed. We could leave V6 to ARIN and the other RIRs. They have budget
> allocated and already operate large outreach programs.
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> Best,
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> -M<
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>  On Jul 13, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Mark Svancarek <marksv at microsoft.com> wrote:
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> For me, IPv6 doesn’t feel like a good fit here.
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> That said, here is some recent content from ARIN.
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> https://www.arin.net/knowledge/preparing_apps_for_v6.pdf
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.arin.net_knowledge_preparing-5Fapps-5Ffor-5Fv6.pdf&d=AwMGaQ&c=96ZbZZcaMF4w0F4jpN6LZg&r=XDN_BIPGnpb6V0w5M9FADw&m=NR232JVYc2agwEoTsS9tU0vMv6THzf9GT1YAOgIqHXI&s=qdggr3b1_5lo82JFYDcuYxi8xjVGw5XXEvdBDSr0n7E&e=>
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> *From:* ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org
> <ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Miguel Ignacio Estrada
> *Sent:* Monday, July 13, 2015 6:06 AM
> *To:* Don Hollander
> *Cc:* UA-discuss at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] Any help needed?
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> Thanks Don!
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> Does this Community Outreach group has a special mailing list?
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> Knowing I am new to this group and maybe this was already discussed,
> Iwanted to ask, since you are already focusing in software companies,
> wouldn't it be a good idea to include IPv6 w-ithin the topics? Many
> softwares may be sensible to this change since they could be storing
> visitors or users IP addresses.
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> Thanks again Don for your information.
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> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Don Hollander <don.hollander at icann.org>
> wrote:
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>  Thanks Miguel…
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> There are four sub-groups within the Universal Acceptance group.
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> - Topline & Technical
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> - International
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> - Measurement
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> - Community Outreach
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> Perhaps you might want to participate in the Community Outreach group.
> They are currently focusing on how to engage with very large e-mail
> software and service providers to encourage their adoption of EAI topics.
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> This group is also working out ways on how to engage the software
> development community to be cognisant of UA and EAI & IDN issues.
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> Don
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>  On 12/07/2015, at 5:49 am, Miguel Ignacio Estrada <miestrada at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
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> I am new to this discussion group, and would like to be more involved and
> also collaborate with the initiative.
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> Is there any open topic or work I could help with?
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> I work in digital communication, so I could be helpful with materials,
> social media, etc.
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> I look forward to any reply.
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> Thanks in advance.
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