[UA-discuss] Hackathon @ ICANN55

Fri Nov 13 21:06:31 UTC 2015

This seems like an accessibility
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_accessibility> hackathon proposal.
Which is a great idea, just doesn't have anything to do with universal
acceptance.

Ron--are you sure you're on the right mailing list?

Jordyn

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Ron Baione via UA-discuss <
ua-discuss at icann.org> wrote:

> Hackathon proposal:
>
> Generate code for all domains which allows for the written contents of any
> website to be read aloud by the computer, phone or tablet for the benefit
> of the visually impaired, with the press of an additional key to be added
> to the keyboard or by hitting a combination of keys easily found on the
> keypad.
>
> Generate code which allows for those spoken words to be paused, rewound,
> fast forwarded, skip to chapter, etc.
>
> Incorporate into existing code which allows for verbal command to bring a
> website up on the screen.
>
> Ron
>
> ------------------------------
> * From: * Brent London via UA-discuss <ua-discuss at icann.org>;
> * To: * Miguel Ignacio Estrada <miestrada at gmail.com>;
> * Cc: * Rubens Kuhl <rubens at registro.br>; ua-discuss at icann.org <
> ua-discuss at icann.org>;
> * Subject: * Re: [UA-discuss] Hackathon @ ICANN55
> * Sent: * Fri, Nov 13, 2015 5:51:02 PM
>
> I agree with Jordyn.
>
> On the topic of hackathons, it's not so clear to me:
>
>    1. that ICANN has the type of audience that would want to participate
>    in a hackathon, and
>
>    2. what problem we're trying to solve with a hackathon. We can't just
>    set up tables, ask developers to show up, say "go", and expect something
>    productive to come from it. We need objectives that (a) fit a hackathon's
>    time constraints, and (b) fit the culture of hackathons: people need to be
>    solving problems that they feel like working on.
>
> A failed hackathon is bad for our cause: wasted UASG resources, wasted
> non-UASG resources, diminished credibility. I think we should pause and
> make sure we've got a good answer to Miguel's question: what would be the
> expected outcome of this hackathon?
>
> Brent
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Miguel Ignacio Estrada <
> miestrada at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for bringing it back to basics, maybe I lost track but what would
>> be the expected outcome of this Hackaton?
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Jordyn Buchanan via UA-discuss <
>> ua-discuss at icann.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all:
>>>
>>> I have two thoughts on this:
>>>
>>> 1) I like to periodically go back to thinking about the UASG as a
>>> coordinating body.  Given that general ! statement of principle/purpose, it
>>> seems like the goal here should be to see if we can find someone who knows
>>> how to do hackathons and have them host it with some level of support and
>>> awareness-raising from the UASG.  Maybe that could be a local university or
>>> tech company.  If we find ourselves in the position that we're putting on a
>>> hackathon as opposed to helping to support one, I'd suggest that we're
>>> losing sight of the coordination role and it's going to be hard to scale up
>>> UA efforts if we expect the UASG to have to be doing most of the heavy
>>> lifting.
>>>
>>> 2) Before we really answer the question of whether a hackathon in
>>> Marrakech makes sense (as a way for us to invest our time and money),
>>> versus a hackathon somewhere else, I think a good question to think about
>>> is what sorts of projects we expect the hackers to be hacking away at.
>>> While it's true that there's some engineers at ICANN meetings, they tend to
>>> be focu! sed on systems/network infrastructure.  So if our goal, for
>>> example, to create some cool javascript that allowed for proper
>>> right-to-left domain handling and conversion to punycode, I'd guess we
>>> wouldn't have a lot of the right people at the meeting to be strong
>>> contributors to this effort.  On the other hand, folks may be able to
>>> articulate some class of problem that we do want to hack away at and where
>>> we think we'll have the right folks on site.  If so, that's great, but we
>>> should clearly articulate what we're after and, to Mike's point, consider
>>> bringing in some people who are going to be really strong coders and idea
>>> generators to make sure we have a nucleus of hackers to build around.
>>>
>>> Pulling together, what I'd hate to see is a
>>> hackathon-for-the-sake-of-a-ha ckathon that ends up not being successful
>>> and discourages future UA technical efforts along these same lines.  I
>>> really want to see these sorts of hackath! ons take place, but I want to
>>> make sure we're getting the most bang for buck out of the effort this group
>>> will invest into making it happen.
>>>
>>> Jordyn
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:52 AM, Mike Silber <mike.silber at icann.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rubens and Don +1
>>>>
>>>> The ccNSO / ccTLD community have a tech day. Try not to overlap and
>>>> engage with the organizers and coordinate as far as possible. Don't expect
>>>> too much though.
>>>>
>>>> Regional IDN ccTLDs are a great place to start.
>>>>
>>>> Avoid the corporate communications machine from getting hold of this
>>>> and turning it into something it is not. Under promise (or don't promise at
>>>> all) and over deliver.
>>>>
>>>> While no one should be excluded, ensure invitations and communications
>>>> make it clear that this is a technical engagement and policy discussions
>>>> happen elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> Consider travel funding specifically for this. To me the criteria would
>>>> be technical skill and regional location!
>>>>
>>>> Just my 2c (and at current exchange rates that is about $0,0018) so
>>>> take it for what it is worth.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> > On 12 Nov 2015, at 02:18, Rubens Kuhl <rubens at registro.br> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Nov 11, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Don Hollander <don.hollander at icann.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Here’s my take on the Hackathon idea @ ICANN55:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 1) ICANN is a technology conference and there would be few
>>>> technology conferences of its size held in the region.
>>>> >> 2) I note that ICANN is generally around policies, but there are
>>>> still a lot of geeks there
>>>> >
>>>> > ccTLD activities at ICANN are usually of a more technical tone, and
>>>> ccTLDs are the most used domains in the AF region, not gTLDs. Involving the
>>>> local IDN ccTLDs might be key to attract more geeks.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Rubens
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Nacho Estrada | @acmuzic <http://twitter.com/acmuzic>
>>
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