[UA-discuss] Language - how do you refer to non-ASCII to a non-technical audience?

Mark Svancarek marksv at microsoft.com
Mon Aug 1 22:51:50 UTC 2016


<pedantic>
                Disagree with Don on B – (classical) Latin has *fewer* characters than English (no “j”, no “u”, and no “w”)
</pedantic>

I’m OK with C in spite of it’s limitations.


From: ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Michele Neylon - Blacknight
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Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Language - how do you refer to non-ASCII to a non-technical audience?

I’d agree with Richard.

If you’re speaking to non-technical people whose native language is English then C is the best option.

ASCII doesn’t mean anything to most non-geeks / techies.

I usually use an example when writing about IDNs. In Irish the simplest one is:
Seán vs sean
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From: <ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Richard Merdinger <rmerdinger at godaddy.com<mailto:rmerdinger at godaddy.com>>
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Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Language - how do you refer to non-ASCII to a non-technical audience?

C works here…it’s just less imperfect than the others.  Agree with what many have said on this thread…the “right” answer is audience and contextually specific.

Richard Merdinger
VP, Domains - GoDaddy

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On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 9:21 PM, Don Hollander <don.hollander at icann.org<mailto:don.hollander at icann.org>> wrote:
I’ve been grappling with this for la very long and now find out I’m not the only one.

So, how would you simply refer to IDNs.

a) non-ASCII  - probably technically correct, but would your grandmother know what this meant?
b) non-Latin - Not even close to being correct as Latin character sets have all sorts of extra bits and bobs
c) non-English - Currently my favourite at the moment.

I’m looking for something really short.

Your thoughts?

Don



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