[UA-discuss] Emoji domain names redux

[Asmus Freytag]

On 3/1/2018 4:22 PM, Mark Svancarek via UA-discuss wrote:
>
> Good clarification.  Rephrasing: UASG does not consider support for 
> emojis as domain names to be part of our current scope or charter.
>
> We are driving adoption of standards, and emojis are outside the 
> standards.
>

It's more than that, surely.

We want users to have a seamless experience - and that includes not 
being exposed to domain names that are inherently risky.

UASG could do more to help address (and limit) the unavoidable risks 
involved.

The article quoted at least gives a nod to some of the problems inherent 
in emoji.

There are risks also in many "naive" implementation of IDNs. And these 
added risks are unnecessary - they are not caused by enabling useful 
IDNs, but by doing it in a way that needlessly increases the attack 
surface - for no credible gain in usability.

A./
>
> (I actually drafted a response to SSAC095, arguing that emojis could 
> be brought into a future update of IDNA, but that was a Microsoft 
> perspective on a theoretical topic, orthogonal to the goals and 
> activities of UASG.
>
> *From:* Edmon [mailto:edmon at registry.asia]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 1, 2018 3:15 PM
> *To:* Mark Svancarek <marksv at microsoft.com>; 'Roberto Gaetano' 
> <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* ua-discuss at icann.org
> *Subject:* RE: [UA-discuss] Emoji domain names redux
>
> As a slight nuance (but I think important), I think what we agreed to 
> is that emojis are not part of the current standard for IDN/DNS. As 
> such it is out of scope for UASG.
>
> I do not think we support/not-support the development of emoji 
> domains… but the right place to start that discussion may be IETF (not 
> UASG), since the technical protocols need to be updated first for it 
> to become a standard before we can talk about UA readiness for it.
>
> Edmon
>
> *From:* UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of 
> *Mark Svancarek via UA-discuss
> *Sent:* Friday, March 2, 2018 5:37 AM
> *To:* Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com 
> <mailto:roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>>
> *Cc:* ua-discuss at icann.org <mailto:ua-discuss at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] Emoji domain names redux
>
> Yep.
>
> For the record, UASG does not support the use of emojis in domain 
> names.  I think we explicitly declared that during the Seattle meeting 
> in April 2017.
>
> *From:* Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com 
> <mailto:roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 1, 2018 11:01 AM
> *To:* Mark Svancarek <marksv at microsoft.com <mailto:marksv at microsoft.com>>
> *Cc:* ua-discuss at icann.org <mailto:ua-discuss at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] Emoji domain names redux
>
> …as if we did not have enough troubles with the serious stuff…
>
>     On 01.03.2018, at 17:46, Mark Svancarek via UA-discuss
>     <ua-discuss at icann.org <mailto:ua-discuss at icann.org>> wrote:
>
>     https://gizmodo.com/emoji-domains-are-the-future-maybe-1823319626
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