[UA-discuss] Emoji domain names redux

[Mark Svancarek]

One could argue similarly that social benefit to emojis does not outweigh the impact their review and adoption have on the Unicode community, but here we are 😊

From: Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 4:59 PM
To: Mark Svancarek <marksv at microsoft.com>
Cc: Edmon <edmon at registry.asia>; ua-discuss at icann.org
Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Emoji domain names redux

Folks,
It might just be that I am in a bad mood tonight, but it seems to me that there is a substantial “social” difference on top of the “technical” difference related to being a standard or not.
While UA of IDNs will allow the underserved communities of non-ASCI-script people to access the Internet on par with the ASCII-script population, there is no social benefit in allowing emojis - although some folks might indeed think that they can make a lot of money with fancy vanity domain names - but this is hardly an outcome towards which I am personally inclined to volunteer time and effort.
But again, it might just be my bad mood, and somebody can convince me tomorrow of how great progress for the humanity would be the development a framework for facilitating emojis.
Cheers,
Roberto


On 02.03.2018, at 01:22, Mark Svancarek <marksv at microsoft.com<mailto:marksv at microsoft.com>> wrote:

Good clarification.  Rephrasing: UASG does not consider support for emojis as domain names to be part of our current scope or charter.

We are driving adoption of standards, and emojis are outside the standards.

(I actually drafted a response to SSAC095, arguing that emojis could be brought into a future update of IDNA, but that was a Microsoft perspective on a theoretical topic, orthogonal to the goals and activities of UASG.

From: Edmon [mailto:edmon at registry.asia]
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 3:15 PM
To: Mark Svancarek <marksv at microsoft.com<mailto:marksv at microsoft.com>>; 'Roberto Gaetano' <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com<mailto:roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>>
Cc: ua-discuss at icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss at icann.org>
Subject: RE: [UA-discuss] Emoji domain names redux

As a slight nuance (but I think important), I think what we agreed to is that emojis are not part of the current standard for IDN/DNS. As such it is out of scope for UASG.

I do not think we support/not-support the development of emoji domains… but the right place to start that discussion may be IETF (not UASG), since the technical protocols need to be updated first for it to become a standard before we can talk about UA readiness for it.

Edmon



From: UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Mark Svancarek via UA-discuss
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 5:37 AM
To: Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com<mailto:roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>>
Cc: ua-discuss at icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Emoji domain names redux

Yep.
For the record, UASG does not support the use of emojis in domain names.  I think we explicitly declared that during the Seattle meeting in April 2017.

From: Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com<mailto:roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 11:01 AM
To: Mark Svancarek <marksv at microsoft.com<mailto:marksv at microsoft.com>>
Cc: ua-discuss at icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Emoji domain names redux

…as if we did not have enough troubles with the serious stuff…


On 01.03.2018, at 17:46, Mark Svancarek via UA-discuss <ua-discuss at icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss at icann.org>> wrote:

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