[UA-discuss] UA and phishiness

[Lars Steffen]

Hi Don,
My CSA Colleagues – who also attend every M3AAWG Meeting – expressed interest in contributing to a paper like this. I will bring them together with John in Munich.
Lars

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Von: UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org> Im Auftrag von Don Hollander
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. April 2018 20:22
An: Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>; Richard Merdinger <rmerdinger at godaddy.com>; ua-discuss at icann.org
Betreff: Re: [UA-discuss] UA and phishiness

We see the anti-abuse community as part of our target audience

1)	They should be aware of all the TLDs, the dynamic nature of the root zone population, and shouldn't be blocking an entire TLD because their systems are not aware of them.
2)	If they block an entire TLD because it is a 'shady' TLD, that's NOT a UA Issue.
3)	The bulk mail operators in the Anti-Abuse community should be aware of EAI Addresses.  Based on a M3WAAG meeting earlier this year, I'm not convinced that's the case.
	To start addressing this, John Levine will be running a session at the M3WAAG meeting in Munich in June.

WE've had discussion about this during our face-to-face meeting in Seattle last year and again on a subsequent conference call.

Our role is not to advocate for TLDs to not be blocked at the top level, but to ensure that those blocking entire TLDs are doing so consciously.   

D

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From: UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org> On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan
Sent: Friday, 27 April 2018 6:09 AM
To: Richard Merdinger <rmerdinger at godaddy.com>; ua-discuss at icann.org
Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] UA and phishiness

Well, to be clear, the point of the discussion I'm in is around automatic blacklisting of everything in a "shady" TLD.

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On April 26, 2018 11:36:44 Richard Merdinger <rmerdinger at godaddy.com> wrote:

> Andrew,
> I get the connection, but I think that this is adjacent to our remit 
> as opposed to part of it.
>
> Other thoughts on this?
>
> Richard Merdinger
> VP, Domains
> rmerdinger at godaddy.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of 
> Andrew Sullivan
> Sent: April 26, 2018 12:34 PM
> To: ua-discuss at icann.org
> Subject: [UA-discuss] UA and phishiness
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm in a meeting about the web PKI and there's a discussion about how 
> poor the anti-abuse stance is of some new TLDs. Does UASG have a view 
> about this?  Should it?
>
> A
>
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> Please excuse my clumbsy thums