[UA-discuss] ICANN64

Patrick Patrick Davison patrickdavisons at gmail.com
Mon Apr 1 10:19:50 UTC 2019


Dear Dusan



I never anticipated such immature communication from a vice chair.  Sorry
am I answerable to you for this and with what authority you can do such
communication with me, UASG is a community driven organization , you and
other administrative group  peoples are elected by us.  So please respect
each other and sorry did I ever questioned on any of your or anyone else
contribution made in past four years.


If you see in archive my discussions, I have not blamed anyone or infact if
you see the complete trail email there are many other topics which I
mentioned in my initial email and not just UA Ambassadors. I am shocked how
you can say my communication or me as a troll.


If I go with what you mentioned and see total email communications made by
each community member actually communicated on ua-discuss as contributing
and sorry  even your contribution on ua-discuss in last four years before
your election nomination was also just few emails which is no number. Do
you wish to highlight that according to you  rest all are non-communicating
community members are only troll’s who have selected you and present / past
administrative group, if that is the case what’s the point of their vote in
selection because of which you are on current position?

Your email also make me eager to know now that how many members we have in
UASG community, what’s the total member’s strength.

As per you they all will also be treated as trolls now if they don’t make
communicate or think to contribute later?


Just google with my name that would make you know who I am and what is my
contribution till now in Internet community or ICANN, for UASG I just meet
you all during ICANN64 Kobe and after that only I become active in UASG
mailing list. I shared my ICANN64 findings as my mail to DON who was the
one who make me understand in length about UASG in Kobe at UASG booth and
ensure that I remain active in future.



Highly for wobbly statement “What you give is what you get” I pray you
don’t go with it.


Patrick

On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Dušan Stojičević <dusan at dukes.in.rs> wrote:

> Dear Patrick Patrick, and Danny,
>
>
>
> Thanks for highlighting, again, the issue about ambassadors. But also,
> here is the issue of another nature - your contribution. Can you help me on
> this?
>
> I don’t see in archive any discussion made by you on any other topic,
> except about UA Ambassadors.
>
> By repeating the same thing and actually not contributing anything to the
> UA, you are just as Danny explained – you sound and act like trolls.
>
>
>
> I really want to believe in all of you, especially that there is more than
> one person behind all those emails talking, but I find really big lack of
> UA contributions coming from you. I couldn’t find anyone who knows you in
> person, anyone who knows your names, so – please – can you highlight what
> you did in the past in the field UA? Some links? If not, can you do
> something useful for UA and contribute to the list?
>
>
>
> What you give is what you get...
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dusan
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Patrick
> Patrick Davison
> *Sent:* 1. април 2019. 9:57
> *To:* dannydong at tech-center.com
> *Cc:* ua-discuss at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] ICANN64
>
>
>
> Danny
>
> I am not scared of what you try to highlight if things in UASG are
> happening in such manner I think I will not remain a community member in
> such a group. I am surprised with things which you have shared. Time will
> prove how correct you were I will just wait and see for some time.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 11:02 AM Danny Dong <dannydong at tech-center.com>
> wrote:
>
> Patrick
>
> You guys are thinking too much and actually you all have too much
> expectation from new UASG administrative group, I pray you all don’t get
> hurt later when they all also treat you and mike also as trolls as ram did
> in past for many of us when we raised this issue initially during F2F.
>
> Trust me nothing will change in UASG as UAA program is totally
> non-transparent and just to pass benefit to few selected individuals of
> their choice. You know who is Ashish Modi check this
> https://www.xgenplus.com/our-team/, hope after this you will sense that
> why even after so much voice on UAA program why nothing was taken seriously
> by past and present chair. The appointments of all old UA ambassadors was
> for one year which is already over few months back do you hear any
> announcement after that? No you will not. So don’t become another victim as
> no one will listen here.
>
> Danny
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:54 AM Patrick Patrick Davison <
> patrickdavisons at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Mike
>
> Awkwardly no, I am not naming myself for UAA ? Universal Acceptance
> Ambassador
>
> I be ascertain of do present charter of UASG allow us to designated names
> for UAA? As in past also all people who were appointed was a sole decision
> of UASG administrative group and no proposals or endorsements were taken
> from UASG community.
>
> I agree that it’s commendable about Aj who progressed toward becoming
> Chair. It would be decent for us to see update each month from his
> leadership team however as mentioned in formerly that past appointments of
> UAA Universal Acceptance Ambassador term is already pass away so without
> being prejudiced about few individuals, UASG administrative group must
> appoint new UAA who have already shown their interest in past, if they want
> community to contribute and help is choosing right UAA they must amend
> their present charter and seek support community members.
>
> Yes Aj has noteworthy remarks about his enthusiasm for UA and working with
> groups so I look forward for his similar approach in taking quick decisions
> which will be transparent and in interest of UASG.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 8:43 PM Mike Hemp <mikehamp1971 at mail.com> wrote:
>
> Patrick
>
> Are you naming yourself for UAA ? Universal Acceptance Ambassador
>
> Do you have names to be designated as UAA ?
>
> Incredible that Aj has progressed toward becoming Chair. It would be
> decent for us to see update each month from leadership and from ambassadors.
>
> Aj, I heard noteworthy remarks about your enthusiasm for UA and working
> with groups. It would be pleasant chance that you could include a few of us
> into this , its locale which will make it successful.
>
> Anticipating to get notification from you.
>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2019 at 3:25 PM
> *From:* "Patrick Patrick Davison" <patrickdavisons at gmail.com>
> *To:* "Mark Svancarek (CELA)" <marksv at microsoft.com>
> *Cc:* "ua-discuss at icann.org" <ua-discuss at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] ICANN64
>
> Hello Mark
>
> Virtuous to see your response, well I am no one to submit any suggestions
> for ambassadors. UA ambassador’s appointment was sole decision of
> administrative group and no one asked from community members who should be
> considered.  There was just one email to us about selected ambassadors who
> were appointed for one year.
>
> I strappingly have faith that candidates willing for the position must
> have applied in last one year and UASG secretariat must be having the
> details of them which they can share with administrative group.  Once you
> all have the information your administrative group can set some selection
> standards and ask secretariat to filter out the new candidates from it. As
> a community members and believer is UASG mission I would only suggest that
> candidates who can really contribute in the mission must be given chance.
>
> Since the terms of earlier appointed UA Ambassadors is already over even
> before ICANN64 and we still have names on website of old ambassadors whose
> terms has already expired and who at present do not hold that position. So
> pronouncement for new UA ambassadors should not be deferred.
>
> Cheers!!!!
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 6:23 PM Mark Svancarek (CELA) <
> marksv at microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> Feel free to submit your suggestions for ambassadors.  No need to wait.
>
>
>
> *From:* UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Patrick
> Patrick Davison
> *Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2019 12:26
> *To:* ua-discuss at icann.org; don.hollander <don.hollander at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] ICANN64
>
>
>
> Hello
>
> Last week I shared below piece of information with newly appointed
> Administrative Group but look like I am just overhear. So sharing again
> with all in community. Also beside all other points startlingly inspite
> knowing the fact that the terms of earlier appointed UA Ambassadors is
> already over even before ICANN64 still no pronouncement were been made for
> new UA ambassadors during ICANN64 or later. I am surprised don’t we have
> nominations or interest submitted by peoples around the world during last
> one year who can be considered.
>
> Cheers !!!!
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 1:23 AM Patrick Patrick Davison <
> patrickdavisons at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> Prodigious meeting all again during ICANN and enthusiastic to see the
> focus of universal acceptance universally in all groups in Kobe and also in
> ICANN.
>
> Further down are my observations on UASG in ICANN64 which i giving you all
> as food for thoughts.
>
> ·        Universal acceptance group exertions are now building shape.
>
> ·        Ram with administrative group members have put a strong
> foundation and given strong beliefs for UASG among all already.
>
> ·        Community have lots of expectations from newly elected Chair and
> vice chairs.
>
> ·        Issues raised for Universal acceptance program during public
> forums were disastrous yet new administrative group must seriously address
> it.
>
> ·        It’s fortunate that term for earlier elected UA Ambassadors is
> already over few month back so they must be quickly dropped to preserve
> civic credence.
>
> ·        We already have few newly elected UA Ambassadors now in team to
> take over and if we have pending applications they must be given chance
> quickly.
>
> ·        As per UASG community update counties to be precise China, UAE,
> India and Russia should we key focus areas so we should have new faces as
> UA Ambassadors in this region who can deliver UASG mission.
>
> ·        Persons vetoed by community should be kept away from any
> auxiliary selections. Earlier we heard a lot for Mr. Modi as Indian Prime
> minister and now in ICANN for a UA Ambassadors, terrible and sad for UASG.
> We should not show any nepotism towards anyone.
>
> ·        UASG available documents must be reviewed and updated to help
> community members
>
> ·        Short training modules and crash courses material must be soon
> updated on UASG.tech so that same can be used by institutions to educate
> for Universal acceptance program.
>
> ·        UA ready certifications for applications and website must be
> quickly planned and implemented.
>
> ·        Community have lots of expectations from Universal acceptance
> group so we should move with a structured plan to deliver speedily.
>
>
>
> Cheers !!!!
>
>
>
> Patrick
>
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