[UA-discuss] interesting to note about emoji in mailbox name.

[Asmus Freytag]

On 4/11/2019 11:39 AM, Mark Svancarek (CELA) via UA-discuss wrote:
>
> Pedantically, I think Ajay is asking about mailbox names.  UASG and 
> SSAC have historically weighed in against emojis in domain names.  But 
> I think we have neglected to indicate that we oppose them in mailbox 
> names as well. There is no equivalent of IDNA for mailbox names, so we 
> could be more explicit about our opposition.
>
Mark,

I definitely agree.

If we run into violent opposition, because many users decide to view 
that restriction as churlish, there's a possible fallback:

E-mail names, unlike domain names, already aren't treated as "exact 
match"; for example certain punctuation is ignored.

A more restricted prohibition might give a better balance: insist that 
all emoji in an email name are treated as ignorable. That way, people 
can add them, as long as the remainder of the name contains a string of 
unique code points.

You would be able to have I❤NYC, but not if someone else has INYC.

This slightly more relaxed stance may be a useful fallback if we find 
that we cannot get traction with a full prohibition.

A./

PS: this technique doesn't work as well with domain names as it would 
have to be implemented by registering all these variants, thus lead to 
combinatorial explosion.


> *From:* UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Mark 
> W. Datysgeld
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2019 07:09
> *To:* ua-discuss at icann.org; Lars Steffen <lars.steffen at eco.de>; Dr 
> Ajay Data <ajay at data.in>; universal access <ua-discuss at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] interesting to note about emoji in mailbox 
> name.
>
> While valid, the SSAC basically concluded we should not be using them: 
> https://features.icann.org/ssac-advisory-use-emoji-domain-name 
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffeatures.icann.org%2Fssac-advisory-use-emoji-domain-name&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C1d438f79ebff4735138b08d6be874922%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636905885599339262&sdata=hoba%2BPffpPNTuelh7hiKAIy8u5g8p1x0X2HuiOtRuko%3D&reserved=0>
>
> So it would be very hard at the moment to push for any kind of change 
> in spam filters. There is ongoing discussion in terms of acceptable 
> characters and such, but that seems to be going nowhere fast.
> -- 
> Mark W. Datysgeld from Governance Primer [www.markwd.website]
> Representing businesses in IG together with AR-TARC and ABES
>
> On April 11, 2019 8:48:48 AM GMT-03:00, Lars Steffen 
> <lars.steffen at eco.de <mailto:lars.steffen at eco.de>> wrote:
>
>     May I quote from the 2 March 2018:
>
>     ...what we agreed to is that emojis are not part of the current
>     standard for IDN/DNS. As such it is out of scope for UASG.
>
>     Lars
>
>     *Von: *UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org>> im Auftrag von Dr Ajay Data
>     <ajay at data.in <mailto:ajay at data.in>>
>     *Datum: *Donnerstag, 11. April 2019 um 09:10
>     *An: *universal access <ua-discuss at icann.org
>     <mailto:ua-discuss at icann.org>>
>     *Betreff: *[UA-discuss] interesting to note about emoji in mailbox
>     name.
>
>         Some Interesting things to note:
>
>         I am testing with Two working Valid Email Address with heart
>         shape..
>         ❤@data.in and ♥@data.in
>
>         ( ❤- xn--qei    and ♥- xn--g6h )
>
>         When I receive email from the above ID`s, In mobile devices
>         these above hearts are shown in different red shades.
>
>     However If I send email to Gmail / Outlook, they consider this as 
>     Spam.  Not only spam, Gmail displays the following warning. -
>
>     *This message seems dangerous*
>
>     The sender’s email address uses abnormal characters, which might
>     be used to spoof real addresses. Avoid clicking links, downloading
>     attachments, or replying to this message.
>
>     Probably, we need to discuss this too and have our views around it.
>
>     *Dr. Ajay Data**
>     *Founder & CEO
>
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