[UA-discuss] Armenia

[Tan Tanaka, Dennis]

Hi Lianna, thanks for clarifying the problem.

This seems to be the case similar (if not the same) as the other “dots” in Unicode. It is the application that can handle the conversion. For example, Chrome would recognize the ideographic full stop used in Chinese (U+3002) as a label separator in the URL address bar. The ideographic full stop is converted to the full stop (U+002E) before the DNS query happens. This conversion does not happen in Safari. Not sure about Firefox or other browsers.

IDNA2003 established a number of “dots” characters as viable label separators. That definition was dropped in IDNA2008 (or at least I could not find it), but found it on UTS#46<http://unicode.org/reports/tr46/#Notation>. Perhaps we should look into requesting an update of UTS#46 to add the “Armenian dot” or in the protocol itself (e.g. a mapping solution)?

Dennis


From: UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Lianna Galstyan <lianna at isoc.am>
Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 1:35 PM
To: Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan at dukes.in.rs>
Cc: Internet Society NGO <isoc at isoc.am>, "UA-discuss at icann.org" <ua-discuss at icann.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [UA-discuss] Armenia

Hi all,

Thanks, Roberto for your inquiry about the situation in Armenia. We hold a press conference lately, on the Day of using Armenian scripts in Internet, and talk about the issue of period mark.

The confusion is not about how many dots should be used, which is the Armenian colon or period, but the fact that the dot in the Armenian script in Unicode is different from that of the dot in the Latin script. So that when someone puts the name of the domain name and then needs to add ․հայ (TLD extension), if this dot is written in Armenian script (this non-standard dot is a default dot in Armenian keyboard), it's considered by servers to be an unknown symbol and the domain name doesn't resolve and show the exact address. This means, that the user should change the keyboard to the Latin, put the dot, then change the keyboard again to write in Armenian. And the confusion is that NOT everyone knows about that problem, which doesn't support the popularization of our IDN TLD.

So, to your question about how big is the impact, I'd say it's very big. It's a tremendous problem for the end user and it's a serious problem for the IDN TLD.

Best,
Lianna
On 12/02/2019 13:16, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
Hi all
Maybe it could be interesting to hear if Lianna has something to add to it?
I am curious to understand how much big is the impact of this fact in Armenia.
Cheers,
Roberto



On 11.02.2019, at 23:47, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan at dukes.in.rs<mailto:dusan at dukes.in.rs>> wrote:

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@MarkS

Dusan



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