[UA-discuss] Document Review: UASG011 Frequently Asked Questions

Dusan Stojicevic dusan at dukes.in.rs
Thu Feb 28 21:48:14 UTC 2019


Dear all,

>From my opinion, Roberto is right. And, indeed, with this document, we are
not addressing end users, and Lars is also right - UASG strategies doesn't
include end users.

But, UASG targets end users, even if it's not written in strategies.
Firstly, ambassadors program - we heard in Barcelona about workshops that
they have done. In audience, there was students, gov people and many more
different kind of people. And some of them are end users. Let me try to
emphasize that most of those groups (f.e. gov) is firstly user and then it
can become promoter of UA.
Not only about this program, but we decided to make an effort to promote UA
more on IGF events, global, regional and national. On this events we are
addressing also to end users.

My logic on this is almost the same as Roberto's: when you promote
something labeled for years as "it doesn't work" firstly you need to
explain to everyone (all target groups) that "it works" on the level of end
user. Then we can touch them further...

And we miss FAQ for users. That's what I heard from people even connected
to domain industry.

Regards,
Dusan

čet, 28. feb 2019. 20:40 Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com> je
napisao/la:

> Hi Lars
> I think I fully understand why UASG’s strategy does not include end users.
> However, I do believe that in one way or the other end users are critical
> in this process, so there is some value in trying to engage them.
> After all, UASG is not the only forum where these issues are discussed.
> Cheers,
> Roberto
>
>
> On 27.02.2019, at 22:47, Lars Steffen <lars.steffen at eco.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Roberto,
>
> If I imagine average end users, I think of people outside the domain
> industry. I don´t know anybody outside the industry who is exited about
> domain names at all. I count ALAC to the industry and/or community around
> this industry. Let´s face the bitter truth: We lack a critical mass out
> there that “just needs to be mobilized to ask for this”.
>
> And so yes, the outreach strategy of the UASG does not include end users.
> We target developers, system architect, CIOs and C* Suite influencers. We
> are explicitly NOT targeting consumers nor registrants.
>
> All the best,
> Lars
>
> *Von: *UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org> im Auftrag von Roberto
> Gaetano <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>
> *Datum: *Mittwoch, 27. Februar 2019 um 21:40
> *An: *"Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka at verisign.com>
> *Cc: *Universal Acceptance <ua-discuss at icann.org>
> *Betreff: *Re: [UA-discuss] Document Review: UASG011 Frequently Asked
> Questions
>
> Hi Dennis.
> You raise an issue that has, IMHO, profound implications.
> From my point of view, the ultimate beneficiary of UA is the end user, who
> will be allowed to access the Internet using his/her own language and
> script, and the local content providers, who can ensure that local people
> can access what they produce.
> However, I am under the impression that the voice of the users is not
> particularly significant in the UASG - maybe this is also by design, as end
> users can seldom be excited by technical discussions and there are
> significant technical issues that UASG has to address in priority. However,
> they should be the ones “asking for this”.
> My point is that we need to get end users more involved, so that they can
> become more active and even more “pushy” for UA. I am personally active in
> ALAC - although I have no official position there - and have some
> difficulties in getting the attention on these issues. I am wondering
> whether we can use the upcoming Kobe meeting to have more involvement from
> this relevant stakeholder group.
> Cheers,
> Roberto
>
>
>
> On 26.02.2019, at 17:51, Tan Tanaka, Dennis via UA-discuss <
> ua-discuss at icann.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Don,
>
> A few edits for your consideration.
>
> One question that I get asked sometimes is “who is asking for this?” The
> FAQ lightly touches on “the expansion of the internet”, but perhaps this
> question should be incorporated in a next iteration. I believe this dove
> tails with Mark’s valid point about languages of the web (and evolution
> throughout the years).
>
> My two cents.
>
> Dennis
>
> *From: *UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Don
> Hollander <don.hollander at icann.org>
> *Date: *Monday, February 25, 2019 at 6:59 PM
> *To: *"UA-discuss at icann.org" <ua-discuss at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] [UA-discuss] Document Review: UASG011 Frequently
> Asked Questions
>
> We have this FAQ published at
> https://uasg.tech/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/UASG011-160823-en-faq-digital.pdf
>
> I’d very much welcome comments from the community about this – whether you
> think it’s fine as it is or whether things have progressed since we last
> updated this in 2016 or whether there are fresh questions that should be
> included.
>
> If you need a deadline, let’s aim for the 5th of March.
>
> Don
>
>
>
> Don Hollander
> Secretary General – UASG
> Skype: Don_Hollander
>
> <UASG011-160823-en-faq-digital (DT edits 26 Feb 2019).pdf>
>
>
>
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