[UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
Ram Mohan
rmohan at afilias.info
Thu Jan 3 03:41:43 UTC 2019
Folks on this thread, and others on the list:
All of the points raised below are interesting and worth discussing at our
F2F meeting next week.
I would not be hasty, however, in labeling the Ambassador program
categorically as complete failures, or cast aspersions on people’s
motivations. Those should be decisions we arrive upon after studying
available data, rather than only individual opinions.
We are trying out the Ambassador program for the first time. We have to
learn what worked and what did not work. And adjust accordingly. In the
meanwhile, it is appropriate for us to be grateful for the work the
Ambassadors are doing on behalf of the UASG.
Similarly, we are trying out the work with IAMAI in India for the first
time. I have heard anecdotally that the program is not working as intended.
It would be good to understand what factors contributed to the current
state, and what we learn from it.
Overall, the spirit of what we are accomplishing, and quite well, in the
UASG, is to try several ideas without a high cost associated with them to
see what achieves traction. We will only commit larger efforts and money to
ideas that we have already vetted on a small scale.
It would be good for all those interested to participate, remotely or in
person, at the F2F next week, and spark deep conversations that lead to
real outcomes.
Regards,
Ram
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*From:* William Donovan <William.Donovan at techie.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:18 PM
*To:* Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <agalila at mcit.gov.eg>
*Cc:* ua-discuss at icann.org
*Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
Hello Abdalmonem
Tactlessly you were not categorical in your preceding retort on which I was
have solemn objections. What stops UA Ambassador in meeting around table,
Scrutinized you, Dusan, Tobias, Elaine or John doing so on numerous
junctures in preceding physically or remotely. Regrettably AM who raised
this was barely accessible remotely even in former occasions or meetings,
in below email also he regret to be available even remotely in F2F. It’s an
erroneous communiqué for people who are unreservedly volunteering their
services that assembly is only conceivable if UASG funds them, remunerate
them $’s to do so. Evidences that how much righteousness they are doing
with the position. Such transmits are entirely disheartening.
Good Night
William Donovan
*Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2019 at 12:46 AM
*From:* "Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila" <agalila at mcit.gov.eg>
*To:* "William Donovan" <William.Donovan at techie.com>, "
ashishmodi at xgenplus.com" <ashishmodi at xgenplus.com>, "don.hollander at icann.org"
<don.hollander at icann.org>
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<ua-discuss at icann.org>
*Subject:* RE: RE: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face
Meeting
Hello William, I am agree totally with Ashish that ambassadors should meet
around one table at least one time/year and more existence should be in
Asia.
I am African and I did many awareness sessions inside my country to raise
awareness not only about UA but also IDN and EAI.
I am volunteering as UA ambassador and I am looking for more awareness
session, training and workshop inside my country and Africa.
Thanks a lot.
All the Best,
Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila
Deputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry,
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*From:* William Donovan [mailto:William.Donovan at techie.com
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*Sent:* 2 January, 2019 8:44 PM
*To:* ashishmodi at xgenplus.com; Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <
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*Subject:* Re: RE: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face
Meeting
Hello AM
I am flabbergasted to perceive your email it immaculate us your
hallucination, philosophies and outlooks. Infact of Asian’s UA Ambassador
as Abdalmonem also instant in what you revealed.
You have a squat commemoration, we come across and interchange our business
cards during ICANN60.
Glad that you partially agree with my point however I do not come to a pact
on any of your edicts.
Astonished to observe that UA Ambassadors do not know about what is
expected and contributed by members of UASG and as off now we all were
confident on such UA Ambassadors directly appointed for spreading awareness
of UA.
Your heroic self-proclamation that “UA Ambassadors are not employees or
paid consultants and paid any $'s” evidently substantiate that UASG
leadership failed to choose right team members, as people with such messy
views can never contribute in any not for profit community associations
looking for voluntary services.
Do you & Abdalmonem contemplate that other UA Ambassadors Dusan, Tobias,
Elaine or John who have given perceptible manifestation and angel for UASG
mission ubiquitously are employees or paid consultants or funded, no they
voluntary given their services. They prospered because they were not having
messy outlooks or gluttony. Mortified with your chaotic compassions but
still utterly motivating to see folks alike Ajay most perfect exemplar for
UASG who without holding any position in UASG truly encouraged about UASG
mission all over the places. Also he helps us to extricate why he succeed
or people like AM or others have failed. Besides that one more thing which
mark unblemished that when we choose mien compatible individuals in team we
must corroborate period since when they are aiding IT industry, else they
will also do analogous gaffes like AM who are merely fresh entrants in IT
industry as I can decipher from his LinkedIn profile.
If we be precise its must to be conversed on paramount precedence in the
upcoming F2F meeting in Washington that do we need such messy outlook or
gluttony thinking individuals around. It also provide symptomatic reason
why we failed in ASIA to spread UA awareness as if we partake individuals
like them as speakers in our important events then criticize received for
IAMAI events during ICANN63 Barcelona was impeccable illustration of their
stimulus.
UASG leadership must cogitate and mien compatible individuals in team who
ponder such imperative position, not those who take it to gain some
monitory benefit or support. Yes it must be outlined again in F2F meeting
in Washington and some elementary guiding principle must be made for
selection of volunteers of UASG then only our mission can be accomplished.
Unfortunately because of my imperative family onuses I will not be joining
in F2F meeting in Washington but will try to be existing remotely
conversely I demand chair RAM and other co-chairs to solemnly made cautious
decision to get away from people with such messy views and mien compatible
individuals in team who ponder such imperative position. I am concomitant
with ICANN from over decades, at age of 73 unfluctuating even if I wish I
could not make offer for this position as I can’t do justice with it but
have aspiration to see that we have more people like Ajay to volunteer.
William Donovan
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 02, 2019 at 8:36 PM
*From:* "Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila" <agalila at mcit.gov.eg>
*To:* "Ashish Modi" <ashishmodi at xgenplus.com>, "`william donovan`" <
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*Cc:* "`ua-discuss at icann.org`" <`ua-discuss at icann.org`>, "
ua-discuss at icann.org" <ua-discuss at icann.org>
*Subject:* RE: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
+1
Thanks a lot.
All the Best,
Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila
Deputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry,
Operation Sector.
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<ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Ashish Modi
*Sent:* 2 January, 2019 4:03 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
Hello William, Ram, Don and other community members,
Though I have never met your personally in any of the UA meetings but I
partially agree with your point.
We all need to discuss in detail about what is expected and contributed by
members of UASG and with little specific to UA Ambassadors as they are
directly appointed for spreading awareness. It should be noted that UA
Ambassadors are not employees or paid consultants, they are like any other
UA member and I don`t think UA ambassadors are even paid any $`s or they
have spent any money till now at-least in India. Rather UA ambassadors have
spent money from there pocket for travel etc and contributed in UA mission.
We need to have clear direction, agenda and guideline with the Roles and
Responsibility for UA Ambassadors and members. This may be discussed in the
upcoming F2F meeting in Washington or in Kobe. If you are attending there ,
please feel free to raise these points. Unfortunately I am not able to
attend in person in DC or remotely. However it should be discussed as it
will also be very helpful for any new UA Ambassador joining.
Regarding IAMAI event, though I was speaker there and found good awareness
activity being done by every speaker around UASG and its issues. Some
people may not be satisfied enough and believe more could have been done. I
would agree, we can always improve.
To bridge the gap, UASG leadership may consider inviting all UA ambassadors
in at-least one of the ICANN in a year and now probably to the upcoming
meet in ICANN 64 at Kobe (its focused on IDN) so that everyone can be able
to present on what they have contributed individually and what was expected
from them and also prepare them for one year.
It would be my pleasure to talk to you, please let me know your skype,
whatsapp or any other medium.
Thanks,
AM
UA Ambassador to India
Skype:- ashishmodi5
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*From:* "William Donovan" <William.Donovan at techie.com> MailId : [87613749]
*To:* "Don Hollander" <don.hollander at icann.org>
*Cc:* "ua-discuss at icann.org" <ua-discuss at icann.org>
*Subject: *Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
*Date:* 01 Jan 2019 03:41:28 PM
Hello Ram, Don and other community members
Happy New Year. Year 2019 will be brining many vicissitudes in UASG as the
tenure of chair Ram Mohan is on accomplishment and fresh being will take
the chair to foster UASG mission accompanied by vice chairs and UA
Ambassadors in near future. Formerly it transpire can we have momentary
update of every distinct impact how they lead to achieve UASG mission. What
if the future take of UASG as with existing small group of few UA
Ambassadors out of whom merely few of them were really able to contribute
what was really expected from them specifically the ASIA region team which
has radically botched in conveying regarding which we all overheard
abundant in Kobe for wastage of UASG funds with completely failed events
held in India explicitly with IAMAI. What’s the new pipeline of fresh faces
for UA Ambassadors and how soon UASG is adding them so that the mission of
UASG can be achieved with quicker pace? Can we expect to hear on it during
Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington DC programmed next
week? William Donovan
*Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2018 at 1:11 PM
*From:* "Don Hollander" <don.hollander at icann.org>
*To:* "ua-discuss at icann.org" <ua-discuss at icann.org>
*Subject:* [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
FYI:
The UASG is having a Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington
DC from January 7 to January 9th.
The agenda and associated papers are currently being prepared.
The meeting will consider a refresh of the group Strategic Plan
particularly in light of the ICANN’s Board inclusion of Universal
Acceptance in its strategic agenda.
Like all our meetings, we’ll provide remote access.
If you are thinking about attending in person, would you please let me know
so that we can manage the logistics.
Thanks.
Don
Don Hollander
Secretary General – UASG
Skype: Don_Hollander
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