[UA-discuss] Maybe email addresses and URLs might not matter anymore?

Wed Jul 29 22:20:53 UTC 2020

Are these billions with mobile phones and mobile apps *really* connected to
the internet?

Sivasubramanian M <https://www.linkedin.com/in/sivasubramanianmuthusamy/>
6.Internet at gmail.com
twitter.com/shivaindia

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:56 AM Yurii Kargapolov <yvk at uanic.net> wrote:

> and yet let me disagree
> who owns the IDs in all social networks and messengers? is it a user? no,
> it's the owner of the social network.
> take this identifier from you and you are Mr./Ms. nobody
> they can pick it up because you "violated" the policies of social networks
> and messengers
> is such an event real? is quite real.
> the situation is different with DNS and email
> yes, in DNS you are not the "owner" of the domain name, only the "holder"
> of the domain name, but no one can take it from you
> what are the risks when you'll associate, for example, your trademarks
> with identifiers in social networks and messengers?
> these are only two aspects? one more related to security issues
> it is true that millennials prefer messengers, but business culture does
> not in any way imply an official exchange of information via messengers,
> unofficial - yes
> messengers and social networks for personal communication - yes, but the
> fixation of significant business and social acts is not yet available
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> Yuri
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> *> On 28 Jul 2020, at 19:52, Jim DeLaHunt wrote: >> UA Colleagues: >> We
> spend a lot of time thinking about universal acceptance of email >>
> addresses and URLs. We tend to assume that email addresses and URLs >> are
> important. But for a lot of information technology users, they >> aren't.
> Those users learned to use IT via mobile, rather than via >> desktop
> computers. They use all-embracing messaging apps like WeChat, >> or walled
> garden social media sites where you find what you want by >> search. In
> these environments, email addresses and URLs just don't >> matter as much
> as they do in longer-established, and Anglo-centric, IT >> cultures. > « I
> know ». Email address for my grown-up teen-agers has been a > temporary ID
> to subscribe to a service on the Internet. They verify your > email by
> sending a challenge to your email address. You click. done. no > use of
> email after.  Then went Oauth enabling login using your > google/facebook/…
> credentials where the browser even help you to type > your userid.
> Therefore, for my kids, email does not really exist. About > URL, URLs were
> not designed to be readable by users, but just a link to > click on. >
> Marc. >> Here are an interesting blog post and an interesting news article
> on >> the topic: >> /In China, email addresses are irrelevant/ • July 28,
> 2020 by John >> Yunker, blog post >> <*
> https://globalbydesign.com/2020/07/28/in-china-email-addresses-are-irrelevant/
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> *> >> /Why email loses out to popular apps in Chin//a/ • 9th July 2020 by
> >> Lu-Hai Liang, BBC >> <*
> https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200707-why-email-loses-out-to-popular-apps-in-china
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> *> >> I think a useful response to this might be to keep asking ourselves,
> >> how do people communicate in preference to emails? How do people find >>
> things in preference to typing in URLs?  Then investigating those >>
> methods for Universal Acceptance as well. >> 'In Anglo-centric countries
> such as the UK, US, Canada, Australia and >> New Zealand, email retains the
> etiquette of an analogue age. The >> “Dear X” greetings and formal
> sign-offs – “Best regards” – >> and so on, reveal vestigial ties to letter
> writing.' >> As I do in this email message. Best regards, >>      —Jim
> DeLaHunt, software engineer, Vancouver, Canada >> -- >> .   --Jim DeLaHunt,
> *jdlh at jdlh.com     http://blog.jdlh.com/
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