<div dir="ltr"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Where are conventions/ good practices/best practices for the localname part of an e-mail address developed?<br>Is this something that the UA group could facilitate during a face to face gathering? If so, should it?</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I believe --- someone correct me if I'm mistaken --- that they developed organically. Since each domain can configure it's local-part rules (mostly) however it wants, there was/is no technical need for coordination for most conventions. So as long as everyone's conforming to the internet mail RFCs, Gmail can decide to ignore dots (.) without negatively affecting <a href="http://outlook.com" target="_blank">outlook.com</a>. </div><div><br></div><!--
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-->proposal. It theoreticallly could be implemented independently: If major mail providers together decided to spam-reject all RTL email addresses with a dot in the local-part, it could help shape this type of convention. But I suspect that a coordination a decision like that would need to go through an anti-abuse working group of some sort first.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 3:08 AM, Don Hollander <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:don.hollander@icann.org" target="_blank">don.hollander@icann.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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The standard for the mailbox name (as in mailbox@domainname) is that the<br>
treatment of the mailbox name is up to the domain name. "Dots" are<br>
immaterial to mail operators (which has proven to be a surprise), the "+"<br>
might be treated specially, etc. I squirm when I think that there's a<br>
desire to think of email names as global and unique. So, in a way, it<br>
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The practices mentioned here --- immaterial dots, treating +substrings differently, case insensitivity --- have evolved outside the context of internationalized email addresses. I believe IC! ANN and this group can have a real impact at promoting
EAI (RFC 6532 et al) adoption while taking no stance on subjective local-part practices like these.
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<div>(There might be areas where we choose to weigh in: local-parts are technically case-sensitive, but one could imagine that there are security implications if an e-commerce site were to allow user@example and User@example to be separate accounts.
But those problems already exist and are not specific to EAI.)</div>
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I'm going to agree with Ram that the most important thing that ICANN do at present is help in the essential Universal *awareness* elements of universal acceptan! ce as well as with facilitation with the coordinating functions. - RSM<span><br>
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mailbox names, I think that would be quixotic. Then again maybe tackling mailbox names isn't necessary, maybe all we really need to do is get clients to work with an expanded definition of what a mailbox name is.<br>
(Lurking in me is the thought of "variants" and how they might cause trouble in mailbox names if there's no canonical form as defined in IDNA<br>
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[[Ram]] The goal would not be for ICANN to drive either the standard or adoption. Instead, the goal would be for ICANN to help improve awareness of the problem space, and then provide a coordination function so appropriate parties can determine solution sets
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