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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">While I still agree that IPv6 doesn’t belong here, I’d like to clarify Miguel’s point.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">It’s true that everyone “knows” IPv6 is being implemented. Few actually watch
<a href="http://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/">the</a> <a href="http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html">
stats</a> or proactively calculate the ROI. They know they have been dodging it for years and don’t necessarily know that things
<a href="http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/07/us-exhausts-new-ipv4-addresses-waitlist-begins/">
have</a> <a href="http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/datacenter/datacenter-blog/apple-set-to-give-ipv6-a-giant-boost.html">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">It’s good to reach out to them. I am Microsoft corporate owner for IPv6 as well as UA, and I’ve been wondering how to use ICANN to move the industry a little
faster. But other than as a footnote (“If you like UA, you’ll love IPv6 – contact marksv”
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> ) I’m not sure how we would tie these things together.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Feel free to reach out to me privately if you have any other ideas about IPv6!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Etuate Cocker<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 13, 2015 2:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Miguel Ignacio Estrada; UA-discuss@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [UA-discuss] Any help needed?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This does not make any sense at all. IPv6 is a global thing and every developer out there should know about it unless they are in a very remote part of the world. They can even use google to find out how to integrate their application with
V6. I agree with others, we should not be mixing UA and IPv6 here. We are talking about two different layers (3 and 7) in the OSI stack.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">Etuate Cocker<br>
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Spark Digital N.Z Ltd,<br>
</span>CCNA, CCNP, CCAI, CEH.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Miguel Ignacio Estrada <<a href="mailto:miestrada@gmail.com" target="_blank">miestrada@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Maybe I didn't express myself well, what I meant was not referred to IPv6 implementation. What I wanted to say is that, since we are already going to talk with software developers, we should also make them aware that IPv6 is being implemented
and their software should also be ready for that. I am thinking about IP validation or storage in their systems IPs in IPv6 format.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Jordyn Buchanan <<a href="mailto:jordyn@google.com" target="_blank">jordyn@google.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Martin and Mark that including IPv6 doesn't make sense. In addition to the fact that the RIRs are already working on it, the acceptance problems are quite different, we'd be targeting different organizations as key targets,
and would even be generally talking to different parts of most organizations to make the implementation happen. So there's not a lot to be gained by trying to combine the two and it might be quite confusing.<span style="color:#888888"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Hannigan, Martin <<a href="mailto:marty@akamai.com" target="_blank">marty@akamai.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Agreed. We could leave V6 to ARIN and the other RIRs. They have budget allocated and already operate large outreach programs.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jul 13, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Mark Svancarek <<a href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com" target="_blank">marksv@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">For me, IPv6 doesn’t feel like a good fit here.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Miguel Ignacio Estrada<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 13, 2015 6:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Don Hollander<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org" target="_blank">UA-discuss@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [UA-discuss] Any help needed?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Knowing I am new to this group and maybe this was already discussed, Iwanted to ask, since you are already focusing in software companies, wouldn't it be a good idea to include
IPv6 w-ithin the topics? Many softwares may be sensible to this change since they could be storing visitors or users IP addresses.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks again Don for your information.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Don Hollander <<a href="mailto:don.hollander@icann.org" target="_blank">don.hollander@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Perhaps you might want to participate in the Community Outreach group. They are currently focusing on how to engage with very large e-mail software and service providers to encourage
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">This group is also working out ways on how to engage the software development community to be cognisant of UA and EAI & IDN issues.<o:p></o:p></p>
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