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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW'>IETF sounds like a more appropriate venue.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW'>They already do organize one: <a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/94/agenda.html">https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/94/agenda.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW'>Edmon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dusan Stojicevic<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 7, 2015 7:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> ua-discuss@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [UA-discuss] Hackathon @ ICANN55<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dear all,<br><br><br>Every event can be a place for Hackathon. There are Hackathons as a side events on school, scientific and education events, on fairs... even as a standalone events.<br>Crucial questions are:<br>1. Can we gather programmers on this Hackathon?<br>It's rather easy to organize Hackathon on IETF meetings... but on ICANN meeting? Don't expect to find programmers among participants of ICANN meetings. We could have some locals, but we need to invest money to bring them there (travel and accommodation support at least). How much is that, roughly? <br>2. If we do so, Hackathon will be side event and first of this kind on ICANN meetings. This fact can trigger huge interest among ICANN participants, if we do good work with PR (especially announcing event). Let say - we can handle that well. But - we better have something useful as a result of this Hackathon (good apps or whatever), or it will be complete fiasco. Empty story in PR sense. And right to left writings in Maroko, this is nice idea. So, we need GOOOD programers (money), GOOOD PR campaign (money) and GOOOD results (depends on the money spent on first two things in sentence). And the real question is> How much money we need for this and will ICANN this amount of money?<br><br>If they want to pay all that - let's have Hackathon, I am in and volunteering to help.<br>(Every problem can be solved with the money. If the problem cannot be solved with the money, it can be solved with large amount of money ;) )<br><br>My two cents<br>Dusan <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 6.11.2015 19:02, Mark Svancarek wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Marrakech as a city for a hackathon makes sense to me, but ICANN 55 as a venue does not.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Rubens Kuhl [<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br">mailto:rubensk@nic.br</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 6, 2015 9:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mark Svancarek<br><b>Cc:</b> Richard Merdinger; Ram Mohan; Don Hollander; <a href="mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org">UA-discuss@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [UA-discuss] Hackathon @ ICANN55</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>That depends on target mission; if the Hackathon goal would be to develop or fix software for right-to-left scripts like Arabic, Marrakech sounds like a good place. If it's something more generic like new gTLDs acceptance, then not.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Rubens<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Em 6 de nov de 2015, à(s) 15:41:000, Mark Svancarek <<a href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com">marksv@microsoft.com</a>> escreveu:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I do like the idea of a hackathon, but not at ICANN. These might have been better:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72'><a href="http://opensourcebridge.org/">http://opensourcebridge.org/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72'><a href="http://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/open-source-2015">http://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/open-source-2015</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>or</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72'><a href="http://businessofsoftware.org/">http://businessofsoftware.org/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>or</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72'><a href="https://www.gala-global.org/conference/gala-annual-conference-2016">https://www.gala-global.org/conference/gala-annual-conference-2016</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>or</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>…?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org">ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org">mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Richard Merdinger<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, November 6, 2015 8:56 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Ram Mohan; Don Hollander; <a href="mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org">UA-discuss@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [UA-discuss] Hackathon @ ICANN55</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>All,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Unfortunately, I agree with Ram here. I want to get excited about how we can accomplish such an event that will achieve some “needle-moving” results. That said, I’m not sure what we would be “hacking” on yet. Also agree on the question of ICANN as an event being thee right location for such an effort once-defined.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I suggest we not rush this concept, but continue to have ongoing open discussion regarding it as part of the combined UASG project teams with a goal of defining the event concept by Marrakech.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thoughts always appreciated,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>--Rich</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Richard Merdinger</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>VP, Domains – GoDaddy</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>e:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72'><a href="mailto:rmerdinger@godaddy.com">rmerdinger@godaddy.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>s: richard.merdinger</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72'><a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org">ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a></span><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>[</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72'><a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org">mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Ram Mohan<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, November 06, 2015 10:29 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Don Hollander <<a href="mailto:don.hollander@icann.org"><span style='color:#954F72'>don.hollander@icann.org</span></a>>;<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72'><a href="mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org">UA-discuss@icann.org</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [UA-discuss] Hackathon @ ICANN55</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I’m skeptical of the success of a hackathon in Marrakesh, or indeed at an ICANN meeting. It needs developers, not policy people to make it successful.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>The probability of success will increase if co-located with a more developer friendly meeting, or in a University setting.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>-Ram</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Don Hollander [mailto:</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72'><a href="mailto:don.hollander@icann.org">don.hollander@icann.org</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, November 06, 2015 12:09 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#954F72'><a href="mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org">UA-discuss@icann.org</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[UA-discuss] Hackathon @ ICANN55</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>ICANN, through Cyrus Namazi, has raised the idea of supporting a “Hackathon” in conjunction with ICANN55 in Morocco.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>A “Hackathon” is where a bunch of geeks gather for a short period of time – one or two days – and code to solve problems.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>At the UA Discuss call yesterday there was strong interest in supporting such an event, but we ran out of time to reach any meaningful conclusion.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>So, this thread is to instigate discussion, ideas, and volunteers to help drive it forward.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Your thoughts, please….</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="99%" noshade style='color:#909090' align=center></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td style='padding:0cm 11.25pt 0cm 6.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1026" src="http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png" alt="Avast logo"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#3D4D5A'>Ova e-pošta je provjerena na viruse Avast protuvirusnim programom. <br><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus">www.avast.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>