<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top"><div>I agree that it would be an accessibility project under normal circumstances. According to the wiki page, the accessibility working group has one member, cheryl, who seems to be inundated by accountability issues at the moment, because of the transition. <br /><br />In lew of no better proposal, maybe such a proposal would be a good initial way to bring coders together under a humanitarian cause, where new ideas more relevant to UA can be generated as the hackathon progresses. For example, maybe a computer code in the URL can be inserted to cause the computer, phone or tablet to read the website URL aloud to the visually impaired, in any language. Maybe different celebrities would volunteer to read some words so there would be choices as to voice playback. <br /><br />Ron<br /><br /></div></td></tr></table> <div id="_origMsg_">
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<td valign="top"><div dir="ltr">This seems like an <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_accessibility">accessibility</a> hackathon proposal. Which is a great idea, just doesn't have anything to do with universal acceptance.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Ron--are you sure you're on the right mailing list?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Jordyn</div></div><div class="yqt2655764761" id="yqt81107"><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Ron Baione via UA-discuss <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
border="0"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top"><div>Hackathon proposal: <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Generate code for all domains which allows for the written contents of any website to be read aloud by the computer, phone or tablet for the benefit of the visually impaired, with the press of an additional key to be added to the keyboard or by hitting a combination of keys easily found on the keypad. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Generate code which allows for those spoken words to be paused, rewound, fast forwarded, skip to chapter, etc.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Incorporate into existing code which allows for verbal command to bring a website up on the screen.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Ron</div></td></tr></tbody></table> <div>
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expected outcome of this hackathon?</div></div><div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Brent</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Miguel Ignacio Estrada <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">miestrada@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><span class=""></span><div dir="ltr">Sorry for bringing it back to basics, maybe I lost track but what would be the expected outcome of this Hackaton?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br clear="none"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Jordyn Buchanan via UA-discuss <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">Hey all:<div><br clear="none"></div><div><span class="">I have two thoughts on this:<br clear="none"></span><div><br clear="none"></div><div>1) I like to periodically go back to thinking about the UASG as a coordinating body. Given that general !
statement of principle/purpose, it seems like the goal here should be to see if we can find someone who knows how to do hackathons and have them host it with some level of support and awareness-raising from the UASG. Maybe that could be a local university or tech company. If we find ourselves in the position that we're putting on a hackathon as opposed to helping to support one, I'd suggest that we're losing sight of the coordination role and it's going to be hard to scale up UA efforts if we expect the UASG to have to be doing most of the heavy lifting.</div></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>2) Before we really answer the question of whether a hackathon in Marrakech makes sense (as a way for us to invest our time and money), versus a hackathon somewhere else, I think a good question to think about is what sorts of projects we expect the hackers to be hacking away at. While it's true that there's some engineers at
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sed on systems/network infrastructure. So if our goal, for example, to create some cool javascript that allowed for proper right-to-left domain handling and conversion to punycode, I'd guess we wouldn't have a lot of the right people at the meeting to be strong contributors to this effort. On the other hand, folks may be able to articulate some class of problem that we do want to hack away at and where we think we'll have the right folks on site. If so, that's great, but we should clearly articulate what we're after and, to Mike's point, consider bringing in some people who are going to be really strong coders and idea generators to make sure we have a nucleus of hackers to build around.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Pulling together, what I'd hate to see is a hackathon-for-the-sake-of-a-ha ckathon that ends up not being successful and discourages future UA technical efforts along these same lines. I really
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ons take place, but I want to make sure we're getting the most bang for buck out of the effort this group will invest into making it happen.</div><span><font color="#888888"></font></span><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Jordyn</div></div><span class=""></span><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:52 AM, Mike Silber <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">mike.silber@icann.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Rubens and Don +1<br clear="none">
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