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<div class="">Ah! I was not expecting that. Not sure what changes Sys Admin has made</div>
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<div class="">Please try the plain http form <a href="http://co-project.lboro.ac.uk/users/coas/arabic-email.html" class="">http://co-project.lboro.ac.uk/users/coas/arabic-email.html</a></div>
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<div class="">André Schappo</div>
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<div class="">On 9 Mar 2016, at 16:29, Leo Vegoda <<a href="mailto:leo.vegoda@icann.org" class="">leo.vegoda@icann.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">Hi Andre,<br class="">
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The page requires a login.<br class="">
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Leo<br class="">
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From: <a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org" class="">ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org" class="">mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Andre Schappo<br class="">
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:25 AM<br class="">
To: <a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" class="">ua-discuss@icann.org</a><br class="">
Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] RTL Script Domain Names & Email Addresses<br class="">
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Without bidi isolates or any other form of intervention the email address مارك@رسيل.السعودية wholly displays L⬅︎R<br class="">
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I have just created a temporary page to show how the arabic address مارك@رسيل.السعودية appears in L➡︎R Context & L⬅︎R Context using bidi isolates.
<a href="https://co-project.lboro.ac.uk/users/coas/arabic-email.html" class="">https://co-project.lboro.ac.uk/users/coas/arabic-email.html</a><br class="">
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The L➡︎R Context gives an email address in a structure more familiar to a L➡︎R reader. The structure being, in this case,
<a href="mailto:local-part@label.label" class="">local-part@label.label</a>. It does not matter which direction a label text is. Each label could have a different direction and again it would not matter. A L➡︎R reader would readily recognise this as an email
address. Personally I find it much easier to recognise an email address when written like this.<br class="">
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Similarly for the L⬅︎R Context<br class="">
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I have used html to illustrate. In a word processing document one would use the Unicode isolates U+2066➡︎2069. It would be the responsibility of the software to automatically implement/insert/apply the bidi isolation for display of the email address to users.<br class="">
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There are indeed other cases but I think the same principles outlined above can be applied.<br class="">
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André Schappo<br class="">
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">On 8 Mar 2016, at 18:51, Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" class="">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 06:02:12PM +0000, Andre Schappo wrote:<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">I have given some thought to how to handle/display domain names that are in a right to left script such as Arabic. After some thought and experimentation I think that each label of a domain name should be bidi isolated.<br class="">
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That's already the requirement for processing, according to IDNA2008<br class="">
(that is, IDNA is label by label, not over the domain name). So so<br class="">
far, I agree.<br class="">
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I don't have an intuition as to what would be clear to a user; perhaps<br class="">
you have one.<br class="">
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But …<br class="">
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">Lets take a 2 level domain name: 2ndLevelD.TLD where each label is written in a Right to Left Script.<br class="">
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… I'm slightly worried about this, because I suspect you're also going<br class="">
to need something that is unsurprising where the different labels are<br class="">
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">I believe that using bidi isolates leads to easier to comprehend domain names/email addresses for both Left to Right readers and Right to Left readers.<br class="">
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This is also probably true, but since an awful lot of cases don't<br class="">
include the markup to indicate the bidi isolates, there's still that<br class="">
problem too. This includes (just for instance) email, particularly<br class="">
the headers. So while the mark up helps I'm wondering what to do<br class="">
about other cases.<br class="">
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A<br class="">
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