<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Anything that says "language" makes me cringe. Lots of domain names aren't a word in any language. What language is "com"? </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">"Your writing" is perhaps better. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">A<br><br>-- <div>Andrew Sullivan </div><div>Please excuse my clumbsy thums. </div></div><div><br>On Jul 22, 2016, at 21:41, Jothan Frakes <<a href="mailto:jothan@jothan.com">jothan@jothan.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Don-</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">This is a good question and a good conversation starter.<br><br>If we're doing it right, the correct term is 'Domain Names', ultimately, and I am sure we all yearn for that utopian day.<br><br>:)<br><br>All kidding aside, I have had success at 'Grandma' audiences by referring to IDNs as a variety of terms based upon suitability to the audience.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">If, for example I am in Macau speaking to an audience of largely Chinese participants, and describing [chinese].[chinese] domains, I would say 'Domains in your language'.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Where I am talking to a wider demographic, I might also refer to them as 'world language' domains and then offer a brief narrative of what IDNs are.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">It seems that without the context of visual support and background on IDNs in some brief explanation, it is not as clear to the audience what is being discussed. Also, too much detail causes them to nerdfilter the technical mumbo-jumbo and gobbledy-guck, and then the balance of the discussion receives a reaction like I am explaining real estate on Mars.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Some of the better visual Queues that have been a real benefit are things like Brett London's early stage slides from many of our foundational stage meetings about UA, in some form.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Not sure if 'domains in world languages' answer your quest for a simplified 'grandma' term, but I hope it helps. <br><br>And perhaps others on the list might build on the concept...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">-Jothan</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Jothan Frakes<br>+1.206-355-0230 tel<br>+1.206-201-6881 fax</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Don Hollander <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:don.hollander@icann.org" target="_blank">don.hollander@icann.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I’ve been grappling with this for la very long and now find out I’m not the only one.<br>
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So, how would you simply refer to IDNs.<br>
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a) non-ASCII - probably technically correct, but would your grandmother know what this meant?<br>
b) non-Latin - Not even close to being correct as Latin character sets have all sorts of extra bits and bobs<br>
c) non-English - Currently my favourite at the moment.<br>
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I’m looking for something really short.<br>
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Your thoughts?<br>
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Don</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div>
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