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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Disagree with Don on B – (classical) Latin has *<b>fewer</b>* characters than English (no “j”, no “u”, and no “w”)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michele Neylon - Blacknight<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 30, 2016 8:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Richard Merdinger <rmerdinger@godaddy.com>; Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> UA-discuss@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [UA-discuss] Language - how do you refer to non-ASCII to a non-technical audience?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I’d agree with Richard.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If you’re speaking to non-technical people whose native language is English then C is the best option.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">ASCII doesn’t mean anything to most non-geeks / techies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I usually use an example when writing about IDNs. In Irish the simplest one is:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Michele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><<a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org">ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Richard Merdinger <<a href="mailto:rmerdinger@godaddy.com">rmerdinger@godaddy.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday 29 July 2016 at 21:08<br>
<b>To: </b>Contact <<a href="mailto:contact@jovenet.email">contact@jovenet.email</a>>, Don Hollander <<a href="mailto:don.hollander@icann.org">don.hollander@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org">UA-discuss@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org">UA-discuss@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [UA-discuss] Language - how do you refer to non-ASCII to a non-technical audience?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">C works here…it’s just less imperfect than the others. Agree with what many have said on this thread…the “right” answer is audience and contextually specific.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 8:14 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Don Hollander <<a href="mailto:don.hollander@icann.org">don.hollander@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org">UA-discuss@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org">UA-discuss@icann.org</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve been grappling with this for la very long and now find out I’m not the only one.<span style="font-family:MingLiU"><br>
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</span>So, how would you simply refer to IDNs.<span style="font-family:MingLiU"><br>
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</span>a) non-ASCII - probably technically correct, but would your grandmother know what this meant?<span style="font-family:MingLiU"><br>
</span>b) non-Latin - Not even close to being correct as Latin character sets have all sorts of extra bits and bobs<br>
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I’m looking for something really short.<span style="font-family:MingLiU"><br>
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