<div dir="ltr">Michele, I agree and I think the concern with developer response is appropriate, but we really have to be authentic with ourselves as to why that is. It is reciprocal to that with ICANN gives.<div><br></div><div>My experience with developers/developer communities, is that it is necessary to engage appropriately in their world for results to happen. While it is improving, we still don't have ICANN presence at developer conferences like OSCON, WWDC, Etc from ICANN, or if we do, it is a 'meh' participation, and thus a reciprocal and diminished relevance and ability to inspire response and action to things ICANN publishes. </div><div><br></div><div>I noticed a lot of traction with Mozilla when I put in time with that community and take the time to inspire, educate, and evangelize the added value of action. Otherwise, there are a number of things like security patches and keeping up with critical standards or other resource spends take priority. </div><div><br></div><div>As the comms and resourcing improves, I hope also that the participation of ICANN in developer events increases, which will have higher potential for impact. </div><div><br></div><div>-Jothan</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><br>Jothan Frakes<br>Tel: +1.206-355-0230<br><br></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 4:29 AM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Don et al<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Some really interesting data in these docs.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The lack of engagement / response from developers with respect to issues raised with them is concerning.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Regards<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black"><<a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Don Hollander <<a href="mailto:don.hollander@icann.org" target="_blank">don.hollander@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday 31 August 2017 at 01:19<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" target="_blank">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" target="_blank">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[UA-discuss] Pending Documents for Publication</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Please find attached documents for final comments before we publish:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">04a – A review of popular browsers for UA Readiness – Spoiler alert – most are OK, but few handle the open dot or IDNs as we expect them to. Some browser developers may see this as a feature
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">04c – a look at the issues that have been raised through our UA Complaints process and their resolution. Short answer, not too many raised and even fewer resolved by the website developer</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">04d – A look at Websites and how UA Ready they are. Good news – 7% accepted all names and just 7% accepted none of our sample set. Bad news, just 7% accepted all names.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">04g – UASG Programming Language Evaluation Criteria</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">06a – Revised UASG010 – Quick Guide to Linkification</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">06b – Revised UASG014 – Quick Guide to EAI</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Don</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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