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One thing that I think is both positive and newsworthy is <a href="https://%D0%BC%D0%B2%D0%B4.%D1%80%D1%84" class="">https://мвд.рф</a> which has an Alexa ranking of #8184. This is very good for an IDN. Such a good ranking does indicate high usage of the IDN.
There may be other IDNs that have good Alexa rankings.
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<div class="">...and... I have just noticed that the ASCII <a href="https://mvd.ru" class="">
https://mvd.ru</a> redirects to the IDN <a href="https://%D0%9C%D0%92%D0%94.%D1%80%D1%84" class="">
https://МВД.рф</a> which is newsworthy and a positive for IDNs. As you are all aware it is frequently the case that an IDN redirects to an ASCII</div>
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<div class="">Anyone know of an IDN with a better Alexa ranking?</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" class="">The reports are very good. However, the reports are not newsworthy by themselves without context.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" class="">What will the comms folks say about the significance of the reports?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" class="">Simply saying that sites and emails do not support IDN is not news, unless we indicate that the problems have a social or business impact.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" class="">The reports do not comment on that.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" class="">For example, we identify two issues with email validation- inconsistency across implementations and inaccuracy (or non-compliant) against the standards.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" class="">On paper this seems like a problem. However, the validation can reflect limitations of the backend. Making the validation consistent with the standard only makes sense if the backend can support that
data. So the problem with email validation may not be ignorance of the developers just that it is a symptom of the deficiencies of the backend which take much longer to correct. We need to be careful to categorize the problems correctly for the media.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" class="">A “meaty” issue is the ambiguity of open dot. A URL that works on one browser and not another is a problem for users and businesses and it is significant if no one can correctly say what the right
answer is. That said, maybe we shouldn’t bite the sponsor’s hand since making noise about standards problems seems self-destructive. We can instead quietly encourage the standards to be clarified.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" class="">So I come back to a few questions:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#1F497D" class="">Who is the audience that UASG is targeting? (Or who is comms targeting?)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#1F497D" class="">What kind of media attention are we looking for?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#1F497D" class="">What will we say about the significance of these reports?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:#1F497D" class="">Should the reports have conclusions that also include the impact of these discoveries on society and industry or simply remain as they are now a summary of findings and leave the significance
to other documents?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" class="">tex<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org" class="">ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org" class="">mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Richard Merdinger<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Friday, September 01, 2017 1:18 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> Don Hollander; Dennis Tan Tanaka<br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" class="">ua-discuss@icann.org</a><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [UA-discuss] [Ext] Pending Documents for Publication<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">Going with Dennis; I think the idea is putting it out in appropriately-sized chunks, where chunk-size includes one or more documents.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">Richard Merdinger<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">VP, Domains - GoDaddy<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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</span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><<a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org" class="">ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Don Hollander <<a href="mailto:don.hollander@icann.org" class="">don.hollander@icann.org</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Date: </b>Friday, September 1, 2017 at 3:11 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To: </b>Dennis Tan Tanaka <<a href="mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com" class="">dtantanaka@verisign.com</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" class="">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" class="">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject: </b>Re: [UA-discuss] [Ext] Pending Documents for Publication<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Thanks Dennis.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">The Comms folks are suggesting we publish at least the Browser Review and the Website review at the same time to give media more ‘meat’ at one time.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Most of the documents have been circulating for comment in a vanilla form for some time.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background:white">Can I suggest that UASG publishes one document at a time, perhaps one week apart, so that it gives us time to review?<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<b class="">Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 3:45 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Don Hollander <<a href="mailto:don.hollander@icann.org" class=""><span style="color:purple" class="">don.hollander@icann.org</span></a>><br class="">
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<b class="">Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [UA-discuss] Pending Documents for Publication</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"" class="">Can someone get back to me and confirms:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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