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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It’s one thing to enter a bare domain name into a browser address bar, where the user intent can be inferred.
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<p class="MsoNormal">It’s another thing to assume that every internet-enabled app which displays strings which look like bare domain names should automatically linkify them into a URL.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Understanding of user intention has often been put forward as a prerequisite for linkification, at least since the meeting in Seattle last year.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Sullivan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 30, 2017 10:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Andre Schappo <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>; Universal Acceptance <ua-discuss@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [UA-discuss] Universal Acceptance now on Wikipedia...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Acceptance<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">I sincerely hope that linkification of bare domain names does _not_ take over, because it gets in the way. The Internet is bigger than the web, and we aim for something too poor if we nail ourselves forever and only to https.
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">On December 30, 2017 6:19:11 AM Andre Schappo <<a href="mailto:A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk">A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Really good to see UA on wikipedia. It feels like UA has made the mainstream.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">2 suggestions:-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">1️</span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">⃣</span><span style="color:black"> In the wikipedia article there are indirect references to
<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fuasg.tech&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C0b4274415ebf461d96a608d54fb69fc5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636502568161358679&sdata=g29stbc3vUG%2BpPSaYE%2Fdq%2BBJedj0B8riHxy09S2rpyo%3D&reserved=0">
https://uasg.tech</a> eg <a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fuasg.tech%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F09%2FUASG-Report-UASG016.pdf&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C0b4274415ebf461d96a608d54fb69fc5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636502568161358679&sdata=x8QOPFdx%2BJAQe4Ckeso2BmnpjB0rvmUrDxKLYqNbCMo%3D&reserved=0">https://uasg.tech/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/UASG-Report-UASG016.pdf</a> I
think there should be a direct reference to uasg home page in the wikipedia article ie
<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fuasg.tech&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C0b4274415ebf461d96a608d54fb69fc5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636502568161358679&sdata=g29stbc3vUG%2BpPSaYE%2Fdq%2BBJedj0B8riHxy09S2rpyo%3D&reserved=0">
https://uasg.tech</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">2️</span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">⃣</span><span style="color:black"> drop the www — eg in the wikipedia article there is the link <a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icann.org%2Fresources%2Fpages%2Funiversal-acceptance-2012-02-25-en&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C0b4274415ebf461d96a608d54fb69fc5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636502568161358679&sdata=Yvsz%2FGr3PFTQ%2FHHktdiVeJtr9HKdkj73VKqXZD6fvLw%3D&reserved=0">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/universal-acceptance-2012-02-25-en</a> I
suggest using <a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ficann.org%2Fresources%2Fpages%2Funiversal-acceptance-2012-02-25-en&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C0b4274415ebf461d96a608d54fb69fc5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636502568161358679&sdata=3VRBHe4DJvpr%2BqezbrGqSdU6%2FneY2Nqe4pHgPJ5RqyQ%3D&reserved=0">https://icann.org/resources/pages/universal-acceptance-2012-02-25-en</a> instead.
My experience is that the majority of people think the initial www is necessary but in the majority of web addresses the www is not necessary. My reasoning is that having the www prefix is contrary to IDNs because one then has mixed scripts in an IDN. Take
Korea NIC. Their IDN is <a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fxn--3e0bx5euxnjje69i70af08bea817g.xn--3e0b707e&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C0b4274415ebf461d96a608d54fb69fc5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636502568161358679&sdata=YNCctz7DFeW%2F%2FRBOBipB9rQDvd0jRNwirROTWWtlmb8%3D&reserved=0">https://<span lang="JA" style="font-family:"Malgun Gothic",sans-serif">한국인터넷정보센터한국</span></a> They
do support <a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.xn--3e0bx5euxnjje69i70af08bea817g.xn--3e0b707e&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C0b4274415ebf461d96a608d54fb69fc5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636502568161358679&sdata=mW%2FP9gD9%2BdtkVT5PfYtQgdiB8k0JEOgNBIzqk%2B%2BAb6I%3D&reserved=0">
https://www.<span lang="JA" style="font-family:"Malgun Gothic",sans-serif">한국인터넷정보센터</span>.<span lang="JA" style="font-family:"Malgun Gothic",sans-serif">한국</span></a> but they do not make the www necessary and they do not redirect to the www form.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Now, what I have written is also contradictory because I have used https:// so that my Apple Mail App will linkify. When I put links in my webpages I would only display to users </span><span lang="JA" style="font-family:"Malgun Gothic",sans-serif;color:black">한국인터넷정보센터</span><span style="color:black">.</span><span lang="JA" style="font-family:"Malgun Gothic",sans-serif;color:black">한국</span><span style="color:black">
My hope for the future is that linkification will become more sophisticated and be able linkify </span><span lang="JA" style="font-family:"Malgun Gothic",sans-serif;color:black">한국인터넷정보센터</span><span style="color:black">.</span><span lang="JA" style="font-family:"Malgun Gothic",sans-serif;color:black">한국</span><span style="color:black">
without the need for www or https:// thus resulting, in this case, a fully korean hangeul domain name.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">So, I suggest the working practice — when possible (which I think is most of the time), drop both the www and https:// when presenting the domain name to end users.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">André Schappo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">On 30 Dec 2017, at 08:15, Don Hollander <<a href="mailto:don.hollander@icann.org">don.hollander@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">A nice way to end a fairly productive year.
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