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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/1/2018 4:22 PM, Mark Svancarek via
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good clarification. Rephrasing: UASG does
not consider support for emojis as domain names to be part of
our current scope or charter.
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are driving adoption of standards, and
emojis are outside the standards.</p>
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It's more than that, surely.<br>
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We want users to have a seamless experience - and that includes not
being exposed to domain names that are inherently risky.<br>
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UASG could do more to help address (and limit) the unavoidable risks
involved.<br>
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The article quoted at least gives a nod to some of the problems
inherent in emoji.<br>
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There are risks also in many "naive" implementation of IDNs. And
these added risks are unnecessary - they are not caused by enabling
useful IDNs, but by doing it in a way that needlessly increases the
attack surface - for no credible gain in usability.<br>
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A./<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(I actually drafted a response to SSAC095,
arguing that emojis could be brought into a future update of
IDNA, but that was a Microsoft perspective on a theoretical
topic, orthogonal to the goals and activities of UASG.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Edmon
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:edmon@registry.asia">mailto:edmon@registry.asia</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 1, 2018 3:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mark Svancarek <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com"><marksv@microsoft.com></a>;
'Roberto Gaetano' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com"><roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org">ua-discuss@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [UA-discuss] Emoji domain names redux<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial
Unicode MS",serif" lang="EN-CA">As a slight nuance (but
I think important), I think what we agreed to is that emojis
are not part of the current standard for IDN/DNS. As such it
is out of scope for UASG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial
Unicode MS",serif" lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial
Unicode MS",serif" lang="EN-CA">I do not think we
support/not-support the development of emoji domains… but
the right place to start that discussion may be IETF (not
UASG), since the technical protocols need to be updated
first for it to become a standard before we can talk about
UA readiness for it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial
Unicode MS",serif" lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial
Unicode MS",serif" lang="EN-CA">Edmon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial
Unicode MS",serif" lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial
Unicode MS",serif" lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial
Unicode MS",serif" lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> UA-discuss [<a
href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Svancarek via UA-discuss<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 2, 2018 5:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Roberto Gaetano <<a
href="mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">ua-discuss@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [UA-discuss] Emoji domain names redux<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yep.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For the record, UASG does not support the
use of emojis in domain names. I think we explicitly declared
that during the Seattle meeting in April 2017.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Roberto Gaetano <<a
href="mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 1, 2018 11:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mark Svancarek <<a
href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">marksv@microsoft.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">ua-discuss@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [UA-discuss] Emoji domain names redux<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">…as if we did not have enough troubles with
the serious stuff…
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 01.03.2018, at 17:46, Mark
Svancarek via UA-discuss <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a
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