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<p class="MsoNormal">One could argue similarly that social benefit to emojis does not outweigh the impact their review and adoption have on the Unicode community, but here we are
<span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😊</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 1, 2018 4:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mark Svancarek <marksv@microsoft.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Edmon <edmon@registry.asia>; ua-discuss@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [UA-discuss] Emoji domain names redux<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Folks, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It might just be that I am in a bad mood tonight, but it seems to me that there is a substantial “social” difference on top of the “technical” difference related to being a standard or not.
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<p class="MsoNormal">While UA of IDNs will allow the underserved communities of non-ASCI-script people to access the Internet on par with the ASCII-script population, there is no social benefit in allowing emojis - although some folks might indeed think that
they can make a lot of money with fancy vanity domain names - but this is hardly an outcome towards which I am personally inclined to volunteer time and effort.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But again, it might just be my bad mood, and somebody can convince me tomorrow of how great progress for the humanity would be the development a framework for facilitating emojis.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Roberto<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 02.03.2018, at 01:22, Mark Svancarek <<a href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com">marksv@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good clarification. Rephrasing: UASG does not consider support for emojis as domain names to be part of our current scope or charter.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are driving adoption of standards, and emojis are outside the standards.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(I actually drafted a response to SSAC095, arguing that emojis could be brought into a future update of IDNA, but that was a Microsoft perspective on a theoretical topic, orthogonal to the goals and activities of UASG.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Edmon [<a href="mailto:edmon@registry.asia">mailto:edmon@registry.asia</a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, March 1, 2018 3:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Mark Svancarek <<a href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com">marksv@microsoft.com</a>>; 'Roberto Gaetano' <<a href="mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com">roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org">ua-discuss@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [UA-discuss] Emoji domain names redux<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Arial Unicode MS",serif">As a slight nuance (but I think important), I think what we agreed to is that emojis are not part of the current standard for IDN/DNS. As such it is out of scope for UASG.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Arial Unicode MS",serif">I do not think we support/not-support the development of emoji domains… but the right place to start that discussion may be IETF (not UASG), since the technical protocols need
to be updated first for it to become a standard before we can talk about UA readiness for it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Arial Unicode MS",serif">Edmon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>UA-discuss [<a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mark Svancarek via UA-discuss<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, March 2, 2018 5:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Roberto Gaetano <<a href="mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com"><span style="color:purple">roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com</span></a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">ua-discuss@icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [UA-discuss] Emoji domain names redux<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yep.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For the record, UASG does not support the use of emojis in domain names. I think we explicitly declared that during the Seattle meeting in April 2017.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Roberto Gaetano <<a href="mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com"><span style="color:purple">roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com</span></a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, March 1, 2018 11:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Mark Svancarek <<a href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com"><span style="color:purple">marksv@microsoft.com</span></a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">ua-discuss@icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [UA-discuss] Emoji domain names redux<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">…as if we did not have enough troubles with the serious stuff…<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 01.03.2018, at 17:46, Mark Svancarek via UA-discuss <<a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">ua-discuss@icann.org</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgizmodo.com%2Femoji-domains-are-the-future-maybe-1823319626&data=04%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7Ced2a181d6e734078b06508d57fa6cd66%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636555276751685116%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwifQ%3D%3D%7C-1&sdata=Z85DZ%2F4p6gNkeotNhimkKdajYFoGGRHPCEw12ym70sE%3D&reserved=0"><span style="color:#954F72">https://gizmodo.com/emoji-domains-are-the-future-maybe-1823319626</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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